By rhudson - 30 Dec 2017 I have a Damien II centerboard steel schooner, built in France by META in 1981. The unusual thing about these boats is that all the ballast (4.5 tons of lead) in the boat is in the centerboard. So the centerboard is always down and locked when sailing (3.2m / 10.5' sailing draft), but it can be raised (with an electric winch) when motoring, or at anchor, or when taking the ground. There is quite a bit of information about this boat on my website at I'm always interested in talking with owners of similar vessels. Richard |
By simoncurrin - 31 Dec 2017 Thanks Richard I enjoyed reading about your boat and Your voyages. Simon |
By rhudson - 31 Dec 2017 Thanks, Simon. Richard |
Damien ii et damien 3.
Two identical schooners (lifting keel) succeeded the first Damien : Damien II for Jerome and Sally Poncet, and Damien 3 for Gerard and Jaquie Janichon.
Original features Damien II Hull length: 14.14 m (then extended to 1m) Width: 4.40 m Expected displacement: 15 t Draft: 3.08 m (low keel), 0.90 m (high keel) Lead Ballast: 5 t Sail area max. upwind: 124 m² Engine: 80 hp Plans Michel Joubert (1974). Construction of steel hulls to sites META (Tarare) and Eloy LLORENTE (Le Rove). Personal and finishing facilities and equipment.
Damien II wintered in Antarctica (1978-1979). Icebound and transformed into a refuge for the couple Poncet, the boat behaved as expected during the great winter. Based in Falkland Islands (Falkland Islands), he explores more than 30 years the Southern Islands and Antarctic Peninsula.
Twice sold and renamed Kotick, former Damien 3 now belongs to the couple Alain and Claudine Carradec. It performs charters in Patagonia and Antarctica from Ushuaia.
From 1979 to 1983, Gerard was Janichon owner of a cutter 11 m aluminum lifting keel.
Plans J.F. André, construction ACNNO (Noirmoutier).
Jérôme Poncet made more polar campaigns annually to the Antarctic Peninsula and sub-Antarctic islands which adjoin or to South Georgia.
To meet the demand, it has strengthened its fleet Golden Fleece with a big steel ketch, comfortable and highly motorized, well suited to the scientific charter, film and tourism.
Length: 19.5 m (65 ‘) Long. LWL: 15.85 m (52 ‘) Width: 6.19 m (20’4 « ) Draft (max): 2.48 m (8’3 « ) Displacement (gross): 65 tons (FL)
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Located in Tarare since 1963, META is the manufacturer of Bernard Moitessier's historical JOSHUA. Thanks to the Strongall ® assembly process, patented by the shipyard in 1977, and its unique know-how the shipyard designs and builds sailboats, trawlers, speedboats and other floating buildings using the deck hull prestressed aluminum technique: our constructions are efficient, innovative, comfortable and very resistant.
It is in Chauffailles, in Saône et Loire, that Jean Fricaud, an enlightened self-taught metallurgist, takes advantage of his workshops to build his first 11m steel motor-sailer: the SAINTE MARTHE. At the age of 13, Joseph, the eldest son, dreams of cars, drawing and mechanics... and of leaving school as soon as possible in order to start an apprenticeship-which he will do, with his father's blessing.
The workshops, in full effervescence, set up a construction line for hydraulic shovels, Joseph finished his apprenticeship as a mechanic in Lyon and left to enrich his technical knowledge in various regional boiler making workshops hoping, as soon as possible, to practice metallurgy on his own account.
Still in Chauffailles, Jean Fricaud is approached by Bernard Moitessier, for whom he agrees, as a good patron, to build the steel hull of JOSHUA. At the same time, Joseph set up under the name META and became a subcontractor for his father's excavator company.
Jean Fricaud, in Chauffailles, has exhausted all the possibilities for expanding his hydraulic excavator construction company and sets up an additional workshop in Tarare, on the RN7, near Lyon. META, still in Chauffailles, began to diversify and expanded its range of construction equipment.
Jean Fricaud seized the opportunity of a lifetime and sold his prosperous business to an industrial group: he had just built the motorboat NADINE and could finally devote himself to deep-sea fishing. But the buyer does not want to expand to Tarare, where the workshop has just been completed. Sensing "the emergence of a market", Jean proposed to his son to build steel boats there. Joseph obeyed and fate precipitated events: thanks to the publicity generated by Bernard Moitessier's exploits, META became a full-fledged shipyard in Tarare.
After having built more than 70 JOSHUAS, more than 30 DAMIENS II, and many other steel hulls, Joseph launches a big paving stone in the pond and abandons steel in favor of STRONGALL® aluminum, which he has just patented. His pre-stressed aluminum construction technique makes it possible to create extremely resistant deck hulls. The young subsidiary PROMETA, directed by François Fevre, also abandons steel for STRONGALL®.
Patrice Passinge is 17 years old when he joins META as a metal worker, under the supervision of André Ravatier, the company's workshop manager. Joseph carefully follows Patrice's efforts, and despite his young age, he soon proves to be an outstanding journeyman.
Patrice Passinge became workshop manager when, after his excellent career at META, André Ravatier took his legitimate retirement. At the end of the 90's, aware that Joseph was getting older, various buyers came forward with the objective of expanding the company. But Joseph wanted to preserve the family spirit of the company and decided to pass on META to Patrice, who had a solid background and an excellent culture of the business.
Joseph definitively transfers the META Chantier Naval Spécialiste du STRONGALL® brand and all its activities to Patrice Passinge.
Construction and launch of FLEUR AUSTRALE, the magnificent custom sailing boat designed for and by Philippe Poupon. This large expedition ketch travels in all the waters of the world in complete safety, from the Arctic to the Antarctic via the Pacific Ocean.
Design and construction of the Ecotroll 39 in partnership with Jean-Pierre Brouns and the Olbia shipyard. The smallest troller approved for ocean navigation, it sailed from Lyon to Greenland through canals and oceans before returning to Lyon via the Canal du Midi in spring 2011.
50 years of META Shipyard on the island of Frioul opposite Marseille. Great meeting with many clients and personalities owning META yachts.
META is diversifying by proposing hulls for various floating projects, such as the development of a floating restaurant (entre deux ô) visible on Roanne.
Based on our floating projects, Dominique Renouf called on META to build Solar Carriage. Real floating habitats with electric propulsion, the Solar Carriage are powered by photovoltaic panels and can navigate on canals and rivers in an ecological way, an important value of our company. In parallel, META is working on its first production boat, the META 36.
Thursday March 12, a few hours before the first presidential address concerning the containment due to COVID-19, Philippe Brabetz signs the takeover of META Chantier Naval Specialist of the STRONGALL®. Patrice Passinge will launch a carpentry workshop dedicated to the interior fittings of the META 36, at the Tarare location.
The takeover is final and the shipyard, renamed META Yachts—Architect Shipyard—Strongall® Specialist, resists to the COVID wave and follows its course. Philippe conceides his TurboKeels® patent to the company and initiates a range of innovative designs for modern, attractive and highly performing sailboats, new motorboats. META Yachts confirms the desire to invest in environmentally clean projects such as electro-solar housing barge carried by Dominique Renouf, and gorgeous Noé boat, carried by Nicolas Lallemand.
Inauguration de META Yachts Services, à Port Saint Louis du Rhône, sur la côte méditerranéenne, cofondée par Philippe Brabetz et Fréderic Switala, pour l'entretien, le gardiennage et la vente de bateaux META Yachts d'occasion.
Bernard moitessier, writer of great talent, exceptional sailor and philosopher recognized well beyond our borders, bernard moitessier (1925 – 1994) has become a legend..
He has given rise to strong vocations by communicating his precious philosophy to all those who, in love with freedom, have “taken the plunge” and are blossoming far from our agitated lands. Everything or almost everything… has been said and written about Bernard, a very unusual character. “I am weighing these words because I fear that his formidable genius of simplicity has escaped some people and has disappeared into the oblivion of history, which would be unjust and regrettable. More than any other sailor, Bernard was haunted not only by the obligation of robustness of the boat, but also by maintenance, hence maximum simplicity. In this perfect sailor’s logic, the deck of JOSHUA – by its very studied simplicity – has always constituted, in my eyes, an essential work reference. Today, every builder (amateur or professional) should be inspired by the best of this masterpiece of practical common sense, on aluminum as on steel.
Drastically simple, but with minimum solutions that have been carefully thought through… On the JOSHUA bridge, nothing should catch, nothing should hurt, nothing should jam: no rails or screwed parts, but welding of sturdy rings instead (to make it easier to surf with the brush, to keep everything clean, and to do away with protective adhesives! Moreover, the most economical solutions were the order of the day, because Bernard was really not rich when Jean, my father, built for him in 1961, the hull number 1 of JOSHUA in CHAUFFAILLES. Among the original features of this deck plan – of a monarchal rigor – the famous “Chinese hood” for example, is worth the detour: 100% watertight thanks to its judicious volumes of depression in spite of the absence of flexible joint, inviolable, reducing thermal bridges, it divides by 3 the times of painting on its perimeter while maintaining the aspect of the new: who does better?
I was very young in the trade when my small team of journeymen started the construction of the JOSHUAS in TARARE, and Bernard’s sponsorship was a great help to me!
More than forty years separate us today from the launching of Bernard’s hull in LYON, and the spirit of the master is still deeply rooted in our reflexes – everything that could be tried differently often turned out to be less convincing, so thank you Bernard for your intelligent contribution to the design of the metal decks of our sailing ships.
, Founder of META Chantier Naval
There is no such thing as the a universal or perfect material, and here is why we have chosen aluminum to replace steel:.
Why Strongall ® ?
This aluminum construction method was developed and patented by META Chantier Naval in 1977. The concept is that of a self-supporting aluminum deck hull, based on the use of thick sheets: the transverse structure is then reduced to a minimum (integrated tanks, engine cradle, mast belt, crash-box or watertight bulkhead) depending on the size of the boat. This type of construction is synonymous to robustness and longevity, warrants of the significant investment a boat represents over the years.
The Advantages of Strongall ® :
Architectural constraint:
The hulls require developable hull surfaces and lively chine(s)—easily integrated in elegant and efficient designs!
Over 300 sailboats, motorboats and trollers have been built in Tarare since 1977, their extreme robustness secures navigation in particularly difficult areas: Arctic, Northwest Passage, Antarctica… COME MEET US IN TARARE, AND GET A FEELING OF WHAT WE REALLY DO!
A solution for ballasting lead from one side to the other….
To displace the center of gravity without relying on complex tilting keels, Philippe Brabetz, new owner of the Meta shipyard, has come up with an ingenious solution: TurboKeels®, or how to ballast lead from one keel to another!
Already used on tilting keel sailboats such as IMOCAs, the system literally involves shifting the center of gravity of the boat—but a tilting keel requires a large draft and a complex, expensive and above all fragile mechanism not suitable for cruising yachts.
With TurboKeels®, Philippe Brabetz applies the above basic premise to twin keel boats. The 2 keels are then used as reservoirs to accommodate the ballast which travels from one keel to the other as needed, and following a closed circuit mechanism activated by a simple pump.
The advantages of Turbokeels are:
—The Stronglite ® technique is undergoing scrutiny by our R&D team—
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Philippe Brabetz has an architecture degree from the Paris-La-Villette School of Architecture. While studying to become a building specialist, he attends Dominique Presle’s naval architecture courses and becomes passionate about the subject.
He graduates shortly after the first Gulf War, when jobs were hard to come round, and nevertheless manages to join the Guignols’ team at Canal+, working at the design and production of TV sets and special effects as of 1995. Ten years later, still passionate about shipbuilding, he joins the Nantes Naval Architecture DPEA which he tops by an internship for the construction of America’s Cup Areva Challenge monohull. During his collaboration with shipyards and naval architecture firms in France, Spain and Morocco, he invents TurboKeels: a twin-keel system whose lest is ballasted from side to side. The invention patented, taking over META Shipyard seemed like the next best thing to do.
His mission is to consolidate the achievements of the legendary shipyard, but also to add the creative touch that will allow META to navigate today’s challenging waters and thus continue its fantastic adventure.
Born in the same valley as META and with a name familiar to windserfers worldwide, her career was mapped out: since 2008, Nathalie has been assisting the shypyard’s management from an administrative, commercial and accounting point of view.
An Executive Assistant by training, she favors positions which allow for the widest diversity of tasks, within human scale structures. It is an interactive and stimulating format that she appreciates and that participates to the great complementarity between her very “maritime” professional activity and very terrestrial personal interests: running, cycling, hiking are all activities which fill her up with the energy and enthusiasm we much appreciate.
Nathalie is a valued collaborator, who faithfully has and does contribute to the welfare of the company .
A naval architecture engineer with a degree from ENSTA Bretagne, Marin’s work at META combines his passion for sailing and his experience of ocean cruising with the technical skills acquired through his training.
As an admirer of Gérard Janichon (Damien) and Bernard Moitessier (Joshua), he says he’s proud to be able to contribute to the development of META and its new series of ocean-going yachts, with modern lines and a spirit of adventure still intact.
Lover of nature, water sports, and concerned about the environment, Victor tackles his new adventure : his meaningful collaboration as a fully-fledged member of the META team.
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Specialised Masters in Naval and Offshore Architecture/Engineering Offshore engineering, ENSTA Brest
Fluid Dynamics and Energy in Physics, Université Paris-Saclay
Fundamental Physics, Paris-Saclay University
Lionel has learned and confectioned his skill at aluminum ship building at META, where he’s been a faithful member of the team since 2004. He has become the metalworkers’ go-to person for all questions related to Strongall ® boat building techniques.
Not only is he an experienced boilermaker, he’s got a secret skill up his sleeve: he grows grapes which participate in the making of one of the local Rhone wines.
We’re looking forward to the META vintage 😉
Etudiant-ingénieur en architecture navale à l’ENSTA Bretagne, Marin allie en travaillant chez META sa passion pour la voile et ses expériences de croisières hauturières avec les acquis techniques de sa formation.
Admirateur de Gérard Janichon (Damien) et de Bernard Moitessier (Joshua), il se dit fier de pouvoir contribuer au développement de META et de sa nouvelle série de voiliers hauturiers aux lignes modernes et à l’esprit d’aventure toujours intact.
Le chantier est donc très heureux de pouvoir compter parmi ses équipes ce Marin très compétent—mais aussi parfaitement polyvalent, avec un très bel esprit d’équipe et un sourire communicatif.
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This zinc-based product is the best protection against hull corrosion so far. We are its historical retailer and use it for all of our boats.
Whether used as antifouling or covered by a regular antifouling, METAGRIP ® welds perfectly to the steel or aluminum hull thanks to the absorption phenomenon.
It does not deteriorate and therefore fully respects the underwater environment.
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ââ?¬Å?INDIAââ?¬ï¿½ , a Damien II, was launched in the spring of 1976. She was designed by world-class designer Michel Joubert who is well known for his off-shore designs. She was meticulously built by the famous META shipyard in France. Her hull has been constructed lapstrake and was designed to be pushed upwards in ice if she was ever to winter in high latitude areas. She is described with a round bilge, fin keel, and an external skewed rudder. Most Damien IIââ?¬â?¢s were built with pivoting keels which would allow them to venture into shallower water and to have the ability to be beached. With this option, those boats built with pivoting keels gave up performance. ââ?¬Å?Indiaââ?¬ï¿½ , with her fin keel has far better upwind performance and stability. She is schooner rigged with short powerful masts and oversized rigging. She has been rigged for ease of handling in all conditions with minimal crew effort. If youââ?¬â?¢re looking for a fully turn key boat that can take you anywhere, cross any ocean and even cruise the arctic or antarctic at any time of the year, "India" is the boat for you! She has just undergone a full yard period where she has been equipped and refitted for her next voyage. Where are you going to take her?
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‘Daphnae’ is a serious, strong, shorthanded offshore schooner which is in fully sound and good condition ready to sail anywhere in the temperate world. She has strong rigging, strong hull, strong motor, and good sails and running rigging. Her hull is in great shape, was built FULLY GALVANIZED and has always been maintained. This is not a hurricane or restoration boat, she is just a good boat, that has had a good life and is for sail at a fair price.
With her split rig, her lifting keel and rudder, and her seaworthy shape, she is a boat that can really take you places… And in style, at a fair cost. There is also the possibility to continue working the Sea Scout program each summer for the right buyer.
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Equipment: Engines Engine 1: Engine Brand: Perkins Engine Model: 4.236 - 7000 HOURS Engine Type: Inboard Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel Drive Type: Direct Drive
Cruising Speed: 6 knots Maximum Speed: 10 knots
Tanks Fresh Water Tanks: 1 (50 Gallons) Fuel Tanks: 1 (100 Gallons) Holding Tanks: 1 (20 Gallons)
Accommodations Number of single berths: 9 Number of cabins: 4 Number of heads: 1 Seating Capacity: 10
Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.
The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
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