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This compact motorsailer stretches the northern sailing season..
Photos by Ron Dwelle
Danish company LM (Lunderskov Mbelfabrik) began as a wood-furniture maker in 1940. In the 1950s, the company started incorporating the newfangled fiberglass into its furniture and changed its name to LM Glasfiber.
In 1972, the company built its first fiberglass sailboat, the LM27, and over the next 20 years, it built 3,000 boats in five models, ranging from 24 to 32 feet. In 1995, LM stopped building boats and concentrated on fabricating giant wind-turbine blades. The manufacturer is now known as the LM Wind Power Group and claims to be the worlds largest maker of the blades. Unfortunately, the company no longer has anything to do with LM sailboats.
Most LM boats were sold in Europe, but for several years in the 1980s, about a fourth of their hulls were sold in the U.S., particularly in the Great Lakes and East Coast areas. A drastic change in the currency exchange rate raised their price significantly, ending imports. The importer was located in Green Bay, Wis., but went out of business in 2001.
LM reportedly sold the hull molds to English company ScanYachts, which built only two or three hulls, one as recently as 2004.
All the LM models share a similar look-canoe-stern hulls with a pilothouse ahead of a sizable cockpit. All are mast-head rigged sloops, and every owner we talked to said that the boats sailed better than they expected-an experience that we shared on our test sail of the LM32. Despite the boats appearance, owners don’t regard them as motorsailers. The smallest model-the LM24-looks a little clunky with the pilothouse, but all the larger models are fairly attractive, with a modest sheer and fairly low cabinhouse and pilothouse. The LM24 was one of the few small boats with a 6-foot standing headroom. The LM27 gained a reputation as an exceptionally good, small ocean passagemaker, and it continues to be in high demand on the European used-boat market.
All LM boats came with a very complete list of standard equipment, including lifelines, pulpits, speedometer, depthsounder, boarding ladders, anchor and rode, fenders, fire extinguishers, and even dishes and cutlery.
The LM24 and LM27 have shallow full-length keels, but the other models were available with twin bilge keels in addition to the more common long-ish fin keel. As far as we know, no bilge-keel models were imported to the U.S., although this was the most popular in England. The fin-keel models have a spade rudder behind a small partial skeg. Ballast in the smaller models was cast iron, and the company said that the larger models had an alloy of iron and lead cast in fiberglass. We havent been able to decipher that claim, but the ballast is enclosed in fiberglass, which is integral to the hull.
All of LMs designers were in-house, and they were referred to as the back-room boys. The designer of the LM24 is listed simply as LM. The LM27 was designed by Palle Mortensen, and the other three models were designed by Bent Juul Andersen.
The boats were sold with either a Bukh (German) or a Volvo (Swedish) diesel. All the LM boats imported to the U.S. came with Volvo engines, while most of the European boats had the Bukh. The Volvo featured a saildrive as standard in the LM30 and LM32. The engines are enclosed in a sound-proofed fiberglass box, either underneath the sole of the pilothouse (LM32) or under the sole of the cockpit (LM30). Many of these boats on the used-boat market have been re-powered with a variety of engines.
The LMs construction is conventional but well done. The boats have a reputation in Europe for high quality, and the LM32 we tested bore out that reputation. The hull is hand-laid fiberglass, and the deck is balsa cored. Its noteworthy that we could find no delamination or spongy spots in the deck or top of the pilothouse in the 28-year-old LM32 we tested-a rarity in a boat of that age.
The interior mahogany woodwork is well done, as you might expect from a company with a long history as a furniture maker. Even the cabinets and drawers are noticeably well-made, evidence that the company didnt skimp on what was out of sight.
The 32 shares all the obvious characteristics of the LM line-particularly the distinctive canoe stern and pilothouse. In most respects, it is simply a larger version of the smaller models. The boat is 32 feet in length and has a 27-foot, 10-inch waterline; its beam is 10 feet 8 inches, and it draws 4 feet, 11 inches. The bilge keel models (called twin-keel in some brochures) draw 4 feet, 1 inch. Displacement is 12,000 pounds, with 4,400 pounds of ballast.
Accommodations
The LM32s cockpit is sizable considering that canoe-stern boats usually have shortened cockpits. There are bench seats on each side of the cockpit, and a large fold-out table easily can seat six. The boat came standard with a canvas bimini that covers the cockpit, and the boat we sailed had zip-in side curtains as well.
There are lockers under each of the bench seats-propane tanks on the port side-and a huge locker under the cockpit sole. Cockpit drains are adequately sized, but they could become a problem with boarding seas from astern, especially since there is no bridgedeck between the cockpit and pilothouse.
At the top of the rudder-stock is an attachment spot for the removable tiller, which can be used if you want to sail from the cockpit rather than from the pilothouse. The wheel steering in the pilothouse has a mechanical disconnect so the tiller moves freely. It would be a challenge to get at the steering gear near the rudder post since the compartment is sealed off from the rest of the cockpit and there are only two round, 6-inch access ports.
At the forward end of the bench seats on each side are the halyard and reefing lines, which run inside a channel on the side of the pilothouse and terminate in cam cleats in front of stainless Andersen winches. The Andersen genoa winches are adequate but definitely not oversized. None of the winches on the test boat were self-tailing; self-tailers were not originally offered as an option.
The mainsheet has a single cam-cleat attachment point at the back edge of the pilothouse, and the sheet hangs down into the cockpit. Theres no mainsheet traveller.
At the front of the cockpit, double sliding doors open up to the pilothouse. On the starboard side is the steering station with a raised captains seat and a second fold-up seat that slides out so two people can share the helm. A wood steering wheel is immediately ahead, and engine controls, the electrical panel, and sailing instruments are directly in front of the helmsman.
The chart table is immediately ahead of the wheel. This setup is good for laying down a chart so the helmsman can see it, but it made it difficult to do actual chart work.
The pilothouses front windows have windshield wipers, and the front center window opens up for ventilation. An interesting feature testers noted was a sliding hatch above the wheel and seat that allows the helmsman to stand up for a good view of the sails, deck, and seas.
On the port side of the pilothouse is a compact galley, with a two-burner propane stove and a small sink. On the test boat, the front-loading refrigerator is underneath the stove, and storage drawers extend all the way outboard to the hull. The only usable counterspaces are the hinged wood covers for the stove and sink, which can be moved when the stove or sink are in use. This may be the smallest galley in any 32-foot production sailboat.
The pilothouse steps down into the saloon, which has a settee on the port side and a dinette/double-berth to starboard. The owner of the boat we sailed had removed the dinette table, opting to eat only at the cockpit table in exchange for a roomier saloon. Stowage lockers are outboard of the 6-foot-long settees as well as underneath. An overhead hatch and a single, fixed port on each side offer good lighting.
Forward of the saloon is the head to starboard, with a hanging locker opposite. The compact head compartment is unusual in that the sink slides out from underneath the deck, above the toilet. The small head also has a teak grating above the sump, making it possible to shower in the head. Fixed ports on each side offer lighting.
The V-berth uses a filler to make a roomy double bed, though it is only 6 feet long. Small stowage lockers are at the head of the V-berth and underneath the anchor locker. There are also shelves along the hull above the berth. Two fixed ports on the side and an overhead front hatch provide adequate lighting. Early models had stacked berths that looked suitable mostly for children, but we don’t think any of those were imported to the U.S.
Overall, with its narrow beam, long cockpit, and canoe stern, the LM32s interior room is comparable to a more-modern, broad-beamed, fat-stern 28-footer. At least LM avoided the folly of quarter-berths, which are wasted space on most boats this size. This is definitely a couples boat, and finding living or sleeping space for four people would be a push.
The rig is a conventional, single-spreader masthead sloop. The chainplates are close to the deckhouse, so the sidedecks are adequately wide, except at the back edge of the pilothouse, where it is a squeeze to get through.
A rigid boom-vang was standard for the LM32 mainsail, making up some for the lack of a traveller. A 150-percent furling genoa also was standard; smaller sails and a spinnaker were options. The boat we test sailed had only the standard main and 150, but had recently added a stack pack for mainsail handling.
Anyone buying a saltwater LM will want to scrutinize the rigging and chainplates carefully for corrosion. The boat we tested was a freshwater boat with zero rig issues after 28 years.
The LM32 engine is a Volvo MD17 three-cylinder, 35-horsepower diesel. Its plenty big to push the boat, even through headwinds and waves. The Volvo saildrive makes for a compact installation, and the entire engine/drive unit is contained in a waterproof and soundproofed compartment underneath the pilothouse sole. Testers noted that the engine was quiet and its installation offered good access.
The aluminum saildrive needs to be maintained carefully if used in saltwater, but weve heard of surprisingly few problems with corrosion or with the rubber hull seal. The saildrive came with a fixed prop-a folding prop being optional-and the boat we tested had the fixed. Performance would benefit from a folding prop.
On the LM32, the prop is well forward of the rudder, making the boat less maneuverable in reverse. Theres also little sidewise kick from the prop, so tight-quarter turning will be a challenge. In the LM30, the saildrive is much closer to the rudder-under the cockpit rather than under the pilothouse.
Original fuel tankage on the LM32 was 55 gallons, more than enough for normal cruising. In fact, were not big fans of such large tankage. Most coastal cruisers will eventually have fuel in the tank that is several years old, and this could lead to potential problems with algae and other contaminants.
The 55 gallons of water tankage is also adequate for coastal cruising, but the holding tank is only 15 gallons, and this could be an issue as states increase enforcement of pump-out rules. Unfortunately, there is no good place on the boat to install a larger tank.
The original electrical wiring was well done, although after 25 years there are almost always some cobbled-up wiring runs, and the breaker panel would benefit from expansion. The boat comes standard with four 90-amp batteries-housed directly ahead of the engine compartment underneath the pilothouse sole-and shorepower wiring.
The boat also came standard with basic sailing instruments-except a wind meter-and all were still working on the boat we sailed. A wheel-mounted autopilot was installed in the pilothouse. Most owners will want to upgrade to more modern instruments.
The standard deck hardware was satisfactory, in our opinion. Theres a small bowsprit, and our test boat carried a 33-pound Bruce anchor. The anchor locker offers plenty of room for adequate rode. The boat we tested had all chain rode and a windlass. Second and third anchors would have to be stowed in cockpit lockers.
As we noted, the sidedecks and toe-rail are acceptable, being skinny only at the back edge of the pilothouse, but testers did have a problem climbing up on top of the pilothouse-something that you would not do often anyway. The boarding ladder at the canoe stern could be a challenge for some, since theres so little deck space back there, but its do-able.
We were pleasantly surprised by the sailing ability of the LM32. With its pilothouse and canoe stern, you might expect it to sail like a motor sailor, but its nimble and relatively quick, much like a conventional modern sloop.
Conditions for our test sails were 8- to 10-knot winds, and later 10 to 14 knots winds, in relatively flat water, so we sailed with a full main and the 150-percent jib. Both Dacron sails were in excellent shape, of recent vintage. The LM32 sailed nearly to hull speed in the light air and definitely to hull speed in the heavier air.
She came about quickly and tacked easily through 90 degrees. Off the wind, she did very well on close and beam reaches, slowing down only when the wind went more than 120-degrees apparent. You wouldnt need a reef in the main until about 15 knots. Though narrow, the LM32 is a pretty stable boat.
Testers found steering from the pilothouse to be tricky. The sheets and other sail controls are all in the cockpit, behind the pilothouse, so the helmsman has to leave the helm to handle the sails or depend on crew.
The boat can be sailed from the cockpit, using the attachable tiller, but visibility is poor from the cockpit seats-the helmsman would have to stand up to steer the boat. For cruising, the autopilot would ease this problem, but most experienced sailors would have to adjust to the pilothouse.
LM boat owners seem to hold on to their boats for a long time. At presstime, 15 LMs were listed for sale in Europe, but only one was listed in the U.S. And the only boat sold in the U.S. in the previous year that we could find was actually exported to Europe. Prices varied from $43,000 to $73,000, which we think is very expensive for this size boat.
The appeal of LM boats is definitely in their appearance. If you like a pilothouse and the idea of a canoe stern, this boat is worth considering. Its well-made and sails well, better than most motorsailers we know. We would be hesitant to take one offshore (though a number have made long passages), but it would be a good coastal cruiser.
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Good morning Recently I’ve bought a LM 32, the previous owner give me a very short documentation, thus I have some doubts. 1) How disconnect the whell steering for pilot with free tiller. 2) Do you Know if tfis LM 32 has black water reservoir? Thanks a lot
1) In the pilot house just left of the electrical switches is a T-bar to pull. This will disconnect the steering wheel. Reconnecting can be tricky, since both have to be well aligned. 2) Yes in the floor of the V-birth in the bow.
Happy sailing!
Dear Bart, These problems are solved, now I have another with the steering unit because has too much play. Do you know where can I shop ones? Thanks a lot.
I’ve had my LM 32 since the late 1980’s and sailed this boat through some of the roughest weather the Great Lakes could dish out with surprising safety. So far there have been no major malfunctions ! True it has been stored inside and well maintained, but frankly I’m impressed !
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LM 30/32 - how do they sail?
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Idly contemplating the future and the viability of buying a boat to live on for half the year or so, I wondered if one of these would fit the bill. I am drawn to the idea of the wheelhouse and the sizeable engine, but at the same time has quite attractive lines (unlike the Konsort duo which looks like a shed - IMHO) In most conditions sailing would be preferable to motoring so performance under sail would need to be adequate if not sparkling. Any experiences or views please?
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From yatchtsnet 'The LM30 is a double-ended Scandinavian motorsailer, built to a high quality standard. Although clearly a motor-sailer, the LM30 is actually a surprisingly good sailing boat. They were designed from the outset to be easy to handle, with all lines led back to the well protected cockpit. Both bilge keel and fin keel versions were built, both having surprisingly good sailing performance' Like the look of them. also previous thread http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259772
There are 3 LM's on the moorings near me, two which are used regularly and one which has sat on its' mooring without moving for a good five years, growing mould and weed and with its' uncovered sails slowly rotting away. Very well built and very roomy, I would imagine it would be a comfortable boat to live on board for lengthy periods.
Thanks all. I did try doing a search on the fora but didn't get any results.
Searush said: I'd have one like a shot but for 2 issues, they are long fin keel & somewhat pricey too. But the high price reflects their desireability & not everyone is a dyed in the wool twin keeler like me. Click to expand...
prv said: Is it possible you're mixing them up with another model in the range? Yachtsnet seems to think they came in fin (not long) and bilge keel versions. Pete Click to expand...
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LM 30 Currently sitting in Weymouth Harbour on my twin keel LM30 having had a fabulous sail from Newtown Creek on Saturday. Easterly wind 22 to 25 knots with a slightly bouncy sea but full sails up and 8.5 to 9 knots over the ground for most of the way. Reefed about 3 miles from Weymouth when the wind got up a bit. The twin keels are correctly shaped for sailing performance unlike my last boat, a Snapdragon 747 bilge keeler. Have previously spent 3 months on board cruising N and W France in the LM with no problems.
actionoptics said: Currently sitting in Weymouth Harbour on my twin keel LM30 having had a fabulous sail from Newtown Creek on Saturday. Easterly wind 22 to 25 knots with a slightly bouncy sea but full sails up and 8.5 to 9 knots over the ground for most of the way. Reefed about 3 miles from Weymouth when the wind got up a bit. The twin keels are correctly shaped for sailing performance unlike my last boat, a Snapdragon 747 bilge keeler. Have previously spent 3 months on board cruising N and W France in the LM with no problems. Click to expand...
in weymouth Theta, yes that,s me. Just been for a walk round Radipole. What boat are you?
actionoptics said: Theta, yes that,s me. Just been for a walk round Radipole. What boat are you? Click to expand...
Both the LMs (30 and 32) sail very well and are beautifully thought and fitted out. Another "motorsailor" that sails very well is the Hunter Horizon 32........?
Sorry to put a damper on all these fine recommendations. A friend sold his LM 30 after only one season, because it neither sailed nor motored very well. The engine IIRC was only a Bukh 20 and the rig was very small. I never went on it but both he and his son hated it.
Maybe LM27? Sure it wasn't a LM27? Because that is a piece of sh.. and sails like a floating brick. If you see one, run like h... and don't look back. The LM30/32's sails well for what they are, and are nice boats. Personally they're not for me, but a good boat. Sailed on one regularly years ago, and friends have a 30, which I've rigged and test-sailed for them the last few years.
JomsViking said: Sure it wasn't a LM27? Because that is a piece of sh.. and sails like a floating brick. If you see one, run like h... and don't look back. . Click to expand...
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2013 11 REVIEW : Used Boat Review: LM32 Pilothouse Sloop
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Used Boat Review: LM 32 Pilothouse Sloop
This compact motorsailer stretches the northern sailing season.
Danish company LM (Lunderskov Møbelfabrik) began as a wood-furniture maker in 1940. In the 1950s, the company started incorporating the newfangled fiberglass into its furniture and changed its name to LM Glasfiber.
In 1972, the company built its first fiberglass sailboat, the LM 27 , and over the next 20 years, it built 3,000 boats in five models, ranging from 24 to 32 feet. In 1995, LM stopped building boats and concentrated on fabricating giant wind-turbine blades. The manufacturer is now known as the LM Wind Power Group and claims to be the world’s largest maker of the blades. Unfortunately, the company no longer has anything to do with LM sailboats.
Most LM boats were sold in Europe, but for several years in the 1980s, about a fourth of their hulls were sold in the U.S., particularly in the Great Lakes and East Coast areas. A drastic change in the currency exchange rate raised their price significantly, ending imports. The importer was located in Green Bay, Wis., but went out of business in 2001.
LM reportedly sold the hull molds to English company ScanYachts, which built only two or three hulls, one as recently as 2004.
Photos by Ron Dwelle
A hatch in the pilothouse roof allows the helmsman 360-degree views. All the LM models share a similar look—canoe-stern hulls with a pilothouse ahead of a sizable cockpit. All are mast-head rigged sloops, and every owner we talked to said that the boats sailed better than they expected—an experience that we shared on our test sail of the LM 32. Despite the boat’s appearance, owners don’t regard them as motorsailers. The smallest model—the LM24—looks a little clunky with the pilothouse, but all the larger models are fairly attractive, with a modest sheer and fairly low cabinhouse and pilothouse. The LM 24 was one of the few small boats with a 6-foot standing headroom. The LM 27 gained a reputation as an exceptionally good, small ocean passagemaker, and it continues to be in high demand on the European used-boat market.
All LM boats came with a very complete list of standard equipment, including lifelines, pulpits, speedometer, depthsounder, boarding ladders, anchor and rode, fenders, fire extinguishers, and even dishes and cutlery.
The LM24 and LM 27 have shallow full-length keels, but the other models were available with twin bilge keels in addition to the more common long-ish fin keel. As far as we know, no bilge-keel models were imported to the U.S., although this was the most popular in England. The fin-keel models have a spade rudder behind a small partial skeg. Ballast in the smaller models was cast iron, and the company said that the larger models had “an alloy of iron and lead cast in fiberglass.” We haven’t been able to decipher that claim, but the ballast is enclosed in fiberglass, which is integral to the hull.
All of LM’s designers were in-house, and they were referred to as “the back-room boys.” The designer of the LM24 is listed simply as “LM.” The LM 27 was designed by Palle Mortensen , and the other three models were designed by Bent Juul Andersen .
The boats were sold with either a Bukh (German) or a Volvo (Swedish) diesel. All the LM boats imported to the U.S. came with Volvo engines, while most of the European boats had the Bukh. The Volvo featured a saildrive as standard in the LM30 and LM32 . The engines are enclosed in a sound-proofed fiberglass box, either underneath the sole of the pilothouse (LM32) or under the sole of the cockpit (LM30). Many of these boats on the used-boat market have been re-powered with a variety of engines.
The LMs’ construction is conventional but well done. The boats have a reputation in Europe for high quality, and the LM32 we tested bore out that reputation. The hull is hand-laid fiberglass, and the deck is balsa cored. It’s noteworthy that we could find no delamination or spongy spots in the deck or top of the pilothouse in the 28-year-old LM32 we tested—a rarity in a boat of that age.
The interior mahogany woodwork is well done, as you might expect from a company with a long history as a furniture maker. Even the cabinets and drawers are noticeably well-made, evidence that the company didn’t skimp on what was out of sight.
The 32 shares all the obvious characteristics of the LM line—particularly the distinctive canoe stern and pilothouse. In most respects, it is simply a larger version of the smaller models. The boat is 32 feet in length and has a 27-foot, 10-inch waterline; its beam is 10 feet 8 inches, and it draws 4 feet, 11 inches. The bilge keel models (called twin-keel in some brochures) draw 4 feet, 1 inch. Displacement is 12,000 pounds, with 4,400 pounds of ballast.
Accommodations
The LM32’s cockpit is sizable considering that canoe-stern boats usually have shortened cockpits. There are bench seats on each side of the cockpit, and a large fold-out table easily can seat six. The boat came standard with a canvas bimini that covers the cockpit, and the boat we sailed had zip-in side curtains as well.
There are lockers under each of the bench seats—propane tanks on the port side—and a huge locker under the cockpit sole. Cockpit drains are adequately sized, but they could become a problem with boarding seas from astern, especially since there is no bridgedeck between the cockpit and pilothouse.
At the top of the rudder-stock is an attachment spot for the removable tiller, which can be used if you want to sail from the cockpit rather than from the pilothouse. The wheel steering in the pilothouse has a mechanical disconnect so the tiller moves freely. It would be a challenge to get at the steering gear near the rudder post since the compartment is sealed off from the rest of the cockpit and there are only two round, 6-inch access ports.
At the forward end of the bench seats on each side are the halyard and reefing lines, which run inside a channel on the side of the pilothouse and terminate in cam cleats in front of stainless Andersen winches. The Andersen genoa winches are adequate but definitely not oversized. None of the winches on the test boat were self-tailing; self-tailers were not originally offered as an option.
The mainsheet has a single cam-cleat attachment point at the back edge of the pilothouse, and the sheet hangs down into the cockpit. There’s no mainsheet traveller.
At the front of the cockpit, double sliding doors open up to the pilothouse. On the starboard side is the steering station with a raised captain’s seat and a second fold-up seat that slides out so two people can share the helm. A wood steering wheel is immediately ahead, and engine controls, the electrical panel, and sailing instruments are directly in front of the helmsman.
The chart table is immediately ahead of the wheel. This setup is good for laying down a chart so the helmsman can see it, but it made it difficult to do actual chart work.
The pilothouse’s front windows have windshield wipers, and the front center window opens up for ventilation. An interesting feature testers noted was a sliding hatch above the wheel and seat that allows the helmsman to stand up for a good view of the sails, deck, and seas.
On the port side of the pilothouse is a compact galley, with a two-burner propane stove and a small sink. On the test boat, the front-loading refrigerator is underneath the stove, and storage drawers extend all the way outboard to the hull. The only usable counterspaces are the hinged wood covers for the stove and sink, which can be moved when the stove or sink are in use. This may be the smallest galley in any 32-foot production sailboat.
The pilothouse steps down into the saloon, which has a settee on the port side and a dinette/double-berth to starboard. The owner of the boat we sailed had removed the dinette table, opting to eat only at the cockpit table in exchange for a roomier saloon. Stowage lockers are outboard of the 6-foot-long settees as well as underneath. An overhead hatch and a single, fixed port on each side offer good lighting.
Forward of the saloon is the head to starboard, with a hanging locker opposite. The compact head compartment is unusual in that the sink slides out from underneath the deck, above the toilet. The small head also has a teak grating above the sump, making it possible to shower in the head. Fixed ports on each side offer lighting.
The V-berth uses a filler to make a roomy double bed, though it is only 6 feet long. Small stowage lockers are at the head of the V-berth and underneath the anchor locker. There are also shelves along the hull above the berth. Two fixed ports on the side and an overhead front hatch provide adequate lighting. Early models had stacked berths that looked suitable mostly for children, but we don’t think any of those were imported to the U.S.
Overall, with its narrow beam, long cockpit, and canoe stern, the LM32’s interior room is comparable to a more-modern, broad-beamed, fat-stern 28-footer. At least LM avoided the folly of quarter-berths, which are wasted space on most boats this size. This is definitely a couple’s boat, and finding living or sleeping space for four people would be a push.
The cockpit table folds and tucks into a dedicated slot in the stern (left). Great Lakes sailors will like the warmth and security that the pilothouse affords (above). The Rig
The rig is a conventional, single-spreader masthead sloop. The chainplates are close to the deckhouse, so the sidedecks are adequately wide, except at the back edge of the pilothouse, where it is a squeeze to get through.
A rigid boom-vang was standard for the LM32 mainsail, making up some for the lack of a traveller. A 150-percent furling genoa also was standard; smaller sails and a spinnaker were options. The boat we test sailed had only the standard main and 150, but had recently added a “stack pack” for mainsail handling.
Anyone buying a saltwater LM will want to scrutinize the rigging and chainplates carefully for corrosion. The boat we tested was a freshwater boat with zero rig issues after 28 years.
The LM32 engine is a Volvo MD17 three-cylinder, 35-horsepower diesel. It’s plenty big to push the boat, even through headwinds and waves. The Volvo saildrive makes for a compact installation, and the entire engine/drive unit is contained in a waterproof and soundproofed compartment underneath the pilothouse sole. Testers noted that the engine was quiet and its installation offered good access.
The aluminum saildrive needs to be maintained carefully if used in saltwater, but we’ve heard of surprisingly few problems with corrosion or with the rubber hull seal. The saildrive came with a fixed prop—a folding prop being optional—and the boat we tested had the fixed. Performance would benefit from a folding prop.
On the LM32, the prop is well forward of the rudder, making the boat less maneuverable in reverse. There’s also little sidewise kick from the prop, so tight-quarter turning will be a challenge. In the LM30, the saildrive is much closer to the rudder—under the cockpit rather than under the pilothouse.
Original fuel tankage on the LM32 was 55 gallons, more than enough for normal cruising. In fact, we’re not big fans of such large tankage. Most coastal cruisers will eventually have fuel in the tank that is several years old, and this could lead to potential problems with algae and other contaminants.
The 55 gallons of water tankage is also adequate for coastal cruising, but the holding tank is only 15 gallons, and this could be an issue as states increase enforcement of pump-out rules. Unfortunately, there is no good place on the boat to install a larger tank.
The original electrical wiring was well done, although after 25 years there are almost always some cobbled-up wiring runs, and the breaker panel would benefit from expansion. The boat comes standard with four 90-amp batteries—housed directly ahead of the engine compartment underneath the pilothouse sole—and shorepower wiring.
The boat also came standard with basic sailing instruments—except a wind meter—and all were still working on the boat we sailed. A wheel-mounted autopilot was installed in the pilothouse. Most owners will want to upgrade to more modern instruments.
The standard deck hardware was satisfactory, in our opinion. There’s a small bowsprit, and our test boat carried a 33-pound Bruce anchor. The anchor locker offers plenty of room for adequate rode. The boat we tested had all chain rode and a windlass. Second and third anchors would have to be stowed in cockpit lockers.
As we noted, the sidedecks and toe-rail are acceptable, being skinny only at the back edge of the pilothouse, but testers did have a problem climbing up on top of the pilothouse—something that you would not do often anyway. The boarding ladder at the canoe stern could be a challenge for some, since there’s so little deck space back there, but it’s do-able.
We were pleasantly surprised by the sailing ability of the LM32. With its pilothouse and canoe stern, you might expect it to sail like a motor sailor, but it’s nimble and relatively quick, much like a conventional modern sloop.
Conditions for our test sails were 8- to 10-knot winds, and later 10 to 14 knots winds, in relatively flat water, so we sailed with a full main and the 150-percent jib. Both Dacron sails were in excellent shape, of recent vintage. The LM32 sailed nearly to hull speed in the light air and definitely to hull speed in the heavier air.
She came about quickly and tacked easily through 90 degrees. Off the wind, she did very well on close and beam reaches, slowing down only when the wind went more than 120-degrees apparent. You wouldn’t need a reef in the main until about 15 knots. Though narrow, the LM32 is a pretty stable boat.
Testers found steering from the pilothouse to be tricky. The sheets and other sail controls are all in the cockpit, behind the pilothouse, so the helmsman has to leave the helm to handle the sails or depend on crew.
The boat can be sailed from the cockpit, using the attachable tiller, but visibility is poor from the cockpit seats—the helmsman would have to stand up to steer the boat. For cruising, the autopilot would ease this problem, but most experienced sailors would have to adjust to the pilothouse.
LM boat owners seem to hold on to their boats for a long time. At presstime, 15 LMs were listed for sale in Europe, but only one was listed in the U.S. And the only boat sold in the U.S. in the previous year that we could find was actually exported to Europe. Prices varied from $43,000 to $73,000, which we think is very expensive for this size boat.
The appeal of LM boats is definitely in their appearance. If you like a pilothouse and the idea of a canoe stern, this boat is worth considering. It’s well-made and sails well, better than most motorsailers we know. We would be hesitant to take one offshore (though a number have made long passages), but it would be a good coastal cruiser.
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The Lm 32 is a 32.0ft masthead sloop designed by Bent Juul Andersen and built in fiberglass by LM Glasfiber (DEN) between 1977 and 1988.
181 units have been built..
The Lm 32 is a moderate weight sailboat which is slightly under powered. It is stable / stiff and has a good righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a bluewater cruising boat.
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| Model | Lm 32 | ||
| Length | 32 ft | ||
| Beam | 10.67 ft | ||
| Draft | 4.92 ft | ||
| Country | Denmark (Europe) | ||
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| Sail area / displ. | 14.50 | ||
| Ballast / displ. | 36.58 % | ||
| Displ. / length | 273.72 | ||
| Comfort ratio | 30.02 | ||
| Capsize | 1.81 |
| Hull type | Monohull long keel | ||
| Construction | Fiberglass | ||
| Waterline length | 27.84 ft | ||
| Maximum draft | 4.92 ft | ||
| Displacement | 13230 lbs | ||
| Ballast | 4840 lbs | ||
| Hull speed | 7.07 knots |
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| Rigging | Masthead Sloop | ||
| Sail area (100%) | 505 sq.ft | ||
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| Nb engines | 1 | ||
| Total power | 28 HP | ||
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| Builder | LM Glasfiber (DEN) | ||
| Designer | Bent Juul Andersen | ||
| First built | 1977 | ||
| Last built | 1988 | ||
| Number built | 181 |
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I'm looking for ideas. Here's the parameters: Motorsailer/pilothouse. must have inside helm. Draft less than 5' Under $50K What would you buy and why? go.
Probably mostly a BC kinda boat, but if you can find a Cooper you might want to take a good look. Have done a delivery in a 32 and believe that they had several models in the mid-30's size range. Solid boat. LB
What length? not that I personally would want a boat with less than 5' of draft depending upon where I am going. Gulf, Fisher, nauticat are among a few that I know of with what you describe. Jeanneau has a model or two from the mid 80s that might fit your need. I would need to look it up at the owners site to verify/remember the model name. The few I have seen fit the $$ amount, not sure about the rest of the requirements. marty
blt2ski said: Gulf, Fisher, nauticat are among a few that I know of with what you describe. Click to expand...
Pilothouse sailboats are kind of like "condoms" for sailing. I believe in going commando.
Which is okay if you're undercanvassed.
I don't think you'll see many Nauticats for that price.. Most of the pilothouse boats are larger boats, and as such are going to be out of your price range. IIRC, Cape Dory made a small pilot house boat, but it was a pretty rare beastie.
Okay, here's the list of possibilities that has sorta popped up: Capital yachts Gulf 27 Capital yachts Gulf 32 Fisher 30 Willard Vega Horizon Fales Navigator Anybody have any thoughts on any of these?
Faster said: In the Cooper line there was a 316, a 353, 416 and 502. Few 50s were built and you'd likely only find a 316 or a rough 353 under 50K. Not bad looking for a pilothouse... even the 316 is nicely drawn, but necessarily a bit bulky at that size. The cockpits are smallish, the deckhouses large and so sightlines are fairly compromised from the outside helm. These are relatively beamy hulls but with narrow ends. Fin keels and skeg rudders IIRC. US yachts bought the molds and briefly produced the US 35 and US 42.. not sure how many (or how few) were built and sold. Another short-lived outfit bought the molds of the 316 and a couple of Northwest 32s were built. The last had to be owner finished, we saw it this past summer and he did a nice job of it. Click to expand...
THere is a Gulf 27, not sure about a 29, and there is a 32 to my knowledge. as there is a 27 and 32 at my marina. Then again, if you can afford a few ie 4 $50K bills, I know of a sceptre for sail here in Edmonds wa. If you can find a Jeanneau Fantasia, they have the feel of a MS< altho not a true pilot house design. Marty
Small Gulf Motorsailors I thought I wanted one of these for a while when I was shopping so I dug quite a bit into their pedigree. Most likely story I have been able to piece together is the Newport 27 (NOT 28) hull mold was used to make the Gulf 27, and the same hull was extended to make the 29. Newport 27 was an ok little boat but doesn't set the world on fire performance wise, and the Gulf is heavier. Still neat, maybe I'll get one when I'm 80. (and transplant the pilothouse deck onto a faster boat!)
It was as I recall, and you mention, a newport/cc hull with a pilot house deckhousing on it. There may be a review in Good old boat in the future of a 27, i am recalling a 32 was also done recently. From the fellow that has the 27, there is a reasonably active owners site, or email list too. marty
jrd22 said: Another great boat is Bilgewaters- I think it's a Truant 33? Click to expand...
You west coasters have a lot more choices then i see here in the east. Thanks for the input. TDW, Neptune help me, I am starting to get seriously intrigued by a Navigator or a Willard. yeah they are kind of an odd duck, but it's an interesting package. What brought this brainfart about was running the numbers from the logbook over the past three seasons. Turns out, we motor as often as we sail, and there is always some great sailing to be had in the spring and fall, providing you have some decent weather protection. Regarding draft, Long Point bay tends to get pretty skinny in the fall. Anybody in our marina who draws more than 5.5- 6' is usually hauling out by the middle of september, because the depth begins to get questionable. Which is too bad, because there was some really really great sailing right up until the end of october this year. I don't race, so speed and handling and pointing ability are not at the top of my priority list. I cruise. I tend to cruise slow. I ain't in no hurry because, as far as i am concerned, like a lot of us, i am already there.
Heh-heh. Well played, bl!! [cue golfclap]
And here's mine A 1980 Ta Shing Flying Dutchman Baba 35 Pilot House, designed by Bob Perry; one of about seven in the world. The thing I really like about this pilothouse is how well it integrates into the shape of the boat and the cabin. I think it's one of the best I've seen. As I was buying Perry's book on yacht design, the woman at Armchair Sailor asked, "do you have a boat?" "Yes," I replied. "We pick it up tomorrow. It's a Baba 35 Pilot house." "I hate pilot house boats," she said. I looked at her and smiled... "Well, I didn't buy the boat for you." We got the keys yesterday after a nine month search. Brigadoon has a new home, nestled against the end of Tillicum Marina, on Lake Union. I surprised my broker by wanting to move the boat today, just as a storm system was leaving. We had a dicey moment at the marina but, once we got out into the lake, it was a pretty easy shot to our slip. We took no pictures today. There was too much to do to fumble with a camera. A good friend, who is making a documentary about live aboard folk, did come along and videotape our maiden voyage. Brigadoon now sits against the doc. She's still afloat (we checked after a celebratory dinner at 9 Million in Fremont) last we left her. I'm sure I'll go by and check on her daily. We return Thursday night to settle some more things and plan on camping out on her this weekend. There's much to do. I'll be busy re-bedding chain plate covers, stopping a few small leaks, sorting out the entire boat, building a big todo list, scheduling some engine maintenance, and transitioning to moving aboard the weekend of the 13th of November. It's taken eight long months, looking at possibly a hundred boats, talking to tens of brokers, until we found Brigadoon. Thanks for listening and, as I said to Kerry tonight, "Whew! Done." "No," she replied. "We've just begun." Gosh I love her. The boat isn't bad either. Picasa Web Albums - donn.christianson - Brigadoon
blackjenner said: Brigadoon has a new home, nestled against the end of Tillicum Marina, on Lake Union. Picasa Web Albums - donn.christianson - Brigadoon Click to expand...
Nice boat, blacky! Congratulations. The far east built boats sure have some lovely woodwork... and a damn lot of it!
The budget, man, the budget! $50K. Tops. Even at that I may need to sell an organ.
bljones said: The budget, man, the budget! $50K. Tops. Even at that I may need to sell an organ. Click to expand...
Black - dude, nice Baba!!! She does look super cozy, stout and capable - and there's a lot to be said for that. Perry is definitely the man. Is that a Gibson by the bulkhead? Nice! Now, Dog, baby, I've sailed a tri (a Corsair) at 17 knots - and, granted, it was fun. So I'm not in denial about what multis "can do". I'm talking about the LOOK of the boat. And I'm just saying a tri looks like a freakin' yardsale for hulls. And multis are a little wimpy in the snot. Just ask Tony B.
Gotta agree with smacky on this one... :laugher :laugher :laugher That thing is hideous.
Please, Please make it go away!!!!!!!!!!!
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The LM 30 Sailboat Specs & Key Performance Indicators
The LM 30, a sloop-rigged motorsailer was designed by Bent Juul Andersen and built in Denmark by LM Glasfiber.
Published Specification for the LM 30
Underwater Profile: Fin keel * & skeg-hung rudder
Hull Material: GRP (Fibreglass)
Length Overall: 31'10" (9.7m)
Waterline Length: 26'3" (8.0m)
Beam: 10'0" (3.1m)
Draft: 4'11" (1.5m)
Rig Type: Masthead sloop
Displacement: 11,000lb (4,990kg)
Ballast: Not published
Designer: Bent Juul Andersen
Builder: LM Glasfiber (Denmark)
Year First Built: 1977
Year Last Built: 1990
Number Built: 311
* Bilge keels are an option
Published Design Ratios for the LM 30
1. Sail Area/Displacement Ratio: 11.7
2. Ballast/Displacement Ratio: Not published
3. Displacement/Length Ratio: 272
4. Comfort Ratio: 28.4
5. Capsize Screening Formula: 1.8
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Summary Analysis of the Design Ratios for the LM 30
1. A Sail Area/Displacement Ratio of just 11.7 suggests that the LM 30 will need a stiff breeze to get her going. In light conditions, unless you've got plenty of time on your hands, motor-sailing may be the way to go.
2. In the absence of published ballast details for the LM 30 we are unable to calculate the Ballast/Displacement Ratio.
3. A Displacement/Length Ratio of 272, tells us the LM 30 is a moderate-to-heavy displacement cruiser, which means she'll carry all your cruising gear without it having a dramatic effect on her performance. Most of today's sailboats intended for offshore cruising fall into the moderate displacement category.
4. Ted Brewer's Comfort Ratio of 28.4 suggests that crew comfort of a LM 30 in a seaway is similar to what you would associate with the motion of a coastal cruiser with moderate stability, which is not the best of news for anyone prone to seasickness.
5. The Capsize Screening Formula (CSF) of 1.8 indicates that a LM 30 would be a safer choice of sailboat for an ocean passage than one with a CSF of more than 2.0.
Mor about the LM 30 Motorsailor
The LM 30 is a motorsailer, which means that it can be propelled by either sails or engine, or both. This gives it more flexibility and reliability than a pure sailboat, especially in light winds or adverse currents. The LM 30 has a Volvo MD17D diesel engine with a saildrive that can push the boat up to 7 knots under power.
Accommodation
One of the main attractions of the LM 30 is its spacious and comfortable accommodation. The boat has two helm positions: one in the cockpit with a tiller, and one in the wheelhouse with a wheel. The wheelhouse also has an ingenious pull-out seat for the mate and a sliding hatch above the helm for better visibility. The wheelhouse is connected to the saloon by a step down, creating an open and airy feeling.
The saloon has two settees that can convert to a single and a double berth, respectively. There is also a folding table that can seat six people comfortably. The saloon has plenty of storage space under the seats and in the lockers above them.
There is also a navigation station on the starboard side, with instruments and charts.
The galley is located on the port side of the wheelhouse, opposite the helm. It has a two-burner gas stove with an oven, a sink with hot and cold water, and a refrigerator. There is also ample counter space and storage for utensils and provisions.
The forecabin has a double V-berth with an infill cushion, and a locker on the port side. The head compartment is opposite the locker, on the starboard side. It has a marine toilet, a slide-out washbasin, and a shower. There is also another opening hatch for ventilation.
The cockpit is another living area on the boat, with space for six people around a foldaway table. There are large lockers under the seats for storing sails, fenders, ropes, etc. The cockpit also has a canvas cover that can be rolled up or down depending on the weather.
Hull and Deck
The hull and deck of the LM 30 are designed to be sturdy and functional. The hull has a moderate fin keel (although bilge keels are an option) that provides stability and reduces leeway. The rudder is a spade type that gives good manoeuvrability and responsiveness. The bilge keel option allows the boat to dry out on tidal moorings without damaging the propeller or rudder.
The deck is wide enough to move around easily, but with everything led back to the cockpit, there is little need to leave it. The deck has a non-skid surface for safety and grip. There are also stainless steel handrails, stanchions, and lifelines for security. The deck also has several cleats, fairleads, and winches for handling the sails and lines.
The bow has a stainless steel pulpit and a bow roller. There is also an electric windlass with a remote control that can handle the anchor and chain. The anchor locker has a drain and a hatch for access. The stern has a stainless steel pushpit and a boarding ladder. There is also a stern locker for storing gas bottles.
Other Versions
The LM 30 is the most popular model of the LM series, which also includes the LM 27, the LM 32, and the LM 35. The LM 30 is similar to the LM 27 but with more length, beam, and sail area. The LM 32 and the LM 35 are larger versions of the LM 30, with more accommodation and amenities.
The above text was drafted by sailboat-cruising.com using GPT-4 (OpenAI’s large-scale language-generation model) as a research assistant to develop source material; we believe it to be accurate to the best of our knowledge.
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Popular motorsailer with good sailperformance and pilothouse. LM have been building yachts ranging from 16 till 38 feet, where they mixed the typical motorsailer characteristics (pilothouse, space and comfort) with a well balanced, easy to handle sailplan. Comes well equipped with upgraded electronics, bowthruster, heating.
| 9,75 x 3,25 x 1,50 (m) | ||
| grp | ||
| 1978 | ||
| 1 x Volvo Penta MD17 Diesel | ||
| 36 (hp), 26 (kw) |
| at sales office | ||
| De Valk Sint Annaland | ||
| sold | ||
General - LM 32
GRP motorsailer LM 32 "Brandane", built in 1978 by LM Glassfiber AS Denmark, dim.: 9,75 (lwl 8,50) x 3,25 x 1,50 mtr, headway above waterline: 14,50 mtr, grp hull, deck and superstructure, teak in cockpit, windows in aluminium frames, roundbilged hull with rubbingstrake, fin keel, balanced rudder in skeg, displacement; 6 tonnes, ballast: 2,2 tonnes (lead & cast iron), fueltank: 250 ltrs (grp), freshwatertank: 250 ltrs (grp), sumptank prepared (fittings in place), mechanical wheelsteering in pilothouse, tiller steering in cockpit. Helmpositon in pilothouse has a slide-out/fold-away extra seat.
Accommodation
Classic mahogany interior, 1 cabin and salon, pilothouse, 2(+3) berths, V-berth forward, dinette (can be converted into double berth, headroom: 1,95 mtr, settee, 1 x uw toilet and washbasin, Eberspaecher D3L diesel ducted hot air heating. Galley in pilothouse with stainless steel sink, washbasin and two burner gasstove, electric waterpressure system, boiler hot water system (on engine), 12v Danfoss compressor frontloading fridge.
Volvo Penta MD17C 36 hp (26kW) diesel, installed in 1978, indirect coolingsystem, Volvo Penta Saildrive (seal renewed in 2005), three bladed propeller, cruisingspeed approx. 6 knots, consumption approx. 2,5 ltr/hr, manual / electric bilgepumps, 12/220v electrical system (overhauled in 2003), 4 x battery (2010), shorepower, Mastervolt 12/40 amp automatic batterycharger (2003). Vetus 55kgf electric bowthruster.
Silva compass, Raymarine ST60 log, echosounder and windset, Raymarine Ray54E VHF, Raymarine ST5000+ autopilot (with remote control), VDO Logic Map 10 colour chartplotter and gps, Furuno GP-32 gps (most navigational equipment renewed 2003-04)
Grundig colour TV, Grundig radio/cd player, cockpitcover (winter+summer), cockpittable and -cushions, pilothouse with slidingdoors to cockpit and twin helmsman seat, Goiot manual anchorwinch, Plough anchor with chain, lifebuoy, windscreenwipers, fenders, mooringlines, clock, barometer.
Sloop-rigged, Francespar aluminium mast, Goiot genoa furler, 4 sails: full batten main with Lazy Jacks (+spare) / 2 x furling genoa / stormjib, slabreefing for main (from cockpit), mainsail cover, cover for furling genoa, 2 x Lewmar ST43 sheetwinches, 2 x Lewmar 16ST halyardwinches, spi-pole stowed at the mast, tackle boomvang, mechanical backstayadjuster.
Review of LM 32
Basic specs..
Both the hull and the deck is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season. And outside the sailing season, just bottom cleaning and perhaps anti-fouling painting once a year - a few hours of work, that's all. The deck is a double deck which improves the indoor climate.
The interior is like many other boats made of mahogany. Mahogany belongs to the hardwood species, known for being water-repellent and resistant to decay. It has an attractive wood grain and holds wood polish and varnish well. The boat is equipped with 2 cabins, 6 berths, a galley, 250.0 liter fresh water capacity, toilet facility and 75.0 liter waste water capacity. Note: the boat has also been sold to be self-made/-interiored, which means that the quality of each boat may vary.
The boat equipped with a masthead rig. The advantage of a masthead rig is its simplicity and the fact that a given sail area - compared with a fractional rig - can be carried lower and thus with less heeling moment.
The LM 32 has been built with different keel alternatives.
One option is a fin keel. The fin keel is the most common keel and provides splendid manoeuvrability. The downside is that it has less directional stability than a long keel.
The keel is made of lead. Compared with iron, lead has the advantage of being 44% heavier, which allows a smaller keel and hence less water resistance and higher speed.
LM 32 can enter most marinas as the draft is just about 1.50 - 1.60 meter (4.92 - 5.22 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.
Another option is a fin keel.
The keel is also made of lead.
The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just about 1.20 - 1.30 meter (3.94 - 4.24 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.
The boat is typically equipped with an inboard Volvo Penta MD2030 diesel engine at 28 hp (20 kW). Calculated max speed is about 5.6 knots
The fuel tank has a capacity of 250.0 liters (66 US gallons, 54 imperial gallons).
Sailing characteristics
This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.
What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?
The capsize screening value for LM 32 is 1.77, indicating that this boat could - if evaluated by this formula alone - be accepted to participate in ocean races.
What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?
The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 7.1 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.
The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for LM 32 is about 184 kg/cm, alternatively 1033 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 184 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 1033 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.
Sailing statistics
This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.
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Maintenance
When buying anti-fouling bottom paint, it's nice to know how much to buy. The surface of the wet bottom is about 30m 2 (322 ft 2 ). Based on this, your favourite maritime shop can tell you the quantity you need.
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If you need to renew parts of your running rig and is not quite sure of the dimensions, you may find the estimates computed below useful.
| Usage | Length | Diameter | ||
| Mainsail halyard | 28.3 m | (92.8 feet) | 10 mm | (3/8 inch) |
| Jib/genoa halyard | 28.3 m | (92.8 feet) | 10 mm | (3/8 inch) |
| Spinnaker halyard | 28.3 m | (92.8 feet) | 10 mm | (3/8 inch) |
| Jib sheet | 9.8 m | (32.0 feet) | 12 mm | (1/2 inch) |
| Genoa sheet | 9.8 m | (32.0 feet) | 12 mm | (1/2 inch) |
| Mainsheet | 24.4 m | (80.0 feet) | 12 mm | (1/2 inch) |
| Spinnaker sheet | 21.5 m | (70.4 feet) | 12 mm | (1/2 inch) |
| Cunningham | 3.2 m | (10.5 feet) | 10 mm | (3/8 inch) |
| Kickingstrap | 6.4 m | (21.0 feet) | 10 mm | (3/8 inch) |
| Clew-outhaul | 6.4 m | (21.0 feet) | 10 mm | (3/8 inch) |
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Lm 32 - Lm Glasfiber / STW002905
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Hello, what is the length of the mast of an LM 32 and its boom? I would like to know what that sail is like, the same as the genoa and probably a spinaker Thanks for the answers 22/11/2022 by stw-3207
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1986 LM LM 32
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Lm 32 ,Volvo apx. 30 hp with sail dive . 12000 btu air conditioner main, jenny, spinnaker , riding sail. old spare main . Gps , autopilot , wind instruments , ect . excellent documentation . Winter cover , Joki folding cradle , Windlass not inplace . This boat sails very well with a good turn of speed . 6ft 4.inch headroom . no ladders just one step to salon , Very large cockpit table if opened . motor in it’s own well / box very quiet. single or double helm seats , fidge , stove needs looked at . Hot water system , canvas , tiller and wheel , stern rail seats with cushions . Please google, lm 32 practical sailor for review and data.
Starboard cockpit floor and seats . micro suede cushions . lots of fans . holding tank monitor. fully found ready to go with dishes and glasses in their spots .
Cockpit curtains . cushions
Rig and sails, auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.
The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
Sail Area / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
- SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
Displacement / Length Ratio
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort Ratio
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
Single and Bilge keels. Similar to LM 30.
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The LM32. The 32 shares all the obvious characteristics of the LM line-particularly the distinctive canoe stern and pilothouse. In most respects, it is simply a larger version of the smaller models. The boat is 32 feet in length and has a 27-foot, 10-inch waterline; its beam is 10 feet 8 inches, and it draws 4 feet, 11 inches.
Visit site. From yatchtsnet. 'The LM30 is a double-ended Scandinavian motorsailer, built to a high quality standard. Although clearly a motor-sailer, the LM30 is actually a surprisingly good sailing boat. They were designed from the outset to be easy to handle, with all lines led back to the well protected cockpit.
The 32 shares all the obvious characteristics of the LM line—particularly the distinctive canoe stern and pilothouse. In most respects, it is simply a larger version of the smaller models. The boat is 32 feet in length and has a 27-foot, 10-inch waterline; its beam is 10 feet 8 inches, and it draws 4 feet, 11 inches.
The Relative Speed Performance for LM 32 is 18. Slow Fast 18% 0 50 100. The relative speed performance is 18 which means that a it is faster than 18% of all similar sailboat designs. As this boat is a motor sailer, it is expected that the performance of a motor sailer for sail alone is lower than a dedicated sailboat.
I am currently looking at purchasing an LM 30 or 32 and I seek advice on the real world performance of the two models. On saildata the LM 30 is listed with a sail area per displacement, or SAD for short, of 11.68 The LM 32 on the other hand is listed with a SAD of 14.44 What I seek to know is why the large discrepancy between the two models?
Post by chrismunson onMay 1, 2019 at 3:55pm. I am attempting to reply to the note about the seaworthiness especially the cockpit flooding of the LM 32 specifically. There is approximately a 4-foot square Gap near the area of the rudder shaft in the LM 32 that is totally open to a flooded cockpit. This is approx a 4-foot square opening direct ...
The Lm 32 is a 32.0ft masthead sloop designed by Bent Juul Andersen and built in fiberglass by LM Glasfiber (DEN) between 1977 and 1988. 181 units have been built. The Lm 32 is a moderate weight sailboat which is slightly under powered. It is stable / stiff and has a good righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a bluewater ...
LM 32 is a 31′ 11″ / 9.8 m monohull sailboat designed by Bent Juul Andersen and built by LM Glasfiber between 1977 and 1988. ... The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. Formula. D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³ D: Displacement of the boat in pounds. LWL ...
1554 posts · Joined 2000. #17 · Nov 1, 2010. Faster said: In the Cooper line there was a 316, a 353, 416 and 502. Few 50s were built and you'd likely only find a 316 or a rough 353 under 50K. Not bad looking for a pilothouse... even the 316 is nicely drawn, but necessarily a bit bulky at that size.
It takes into consideration "reported" sail area, displacement and length at waterline. The higher the number the faster speed prediction for the boat. A cat with a number 0.6 is likely to sail 6kts in 10kts wind, a cat with a number of 0.7 is likely to sail at 7kts in 10kts wind. KSP = (Lwl*SA÷D)^0.5*0.5
The LM 30 is similar to the LM 27 but with more length, beam, and sail area. The LM 32 and the LM 35 are larger versions of the LM 30, with more accommodation and amenities. The above text was drafted by sailboat-cruising.com using GPT-4 (OpenAI's large-scale language-generation model) as a research assistant to develop source material; we ...
The 32 shares all the obvious characteristics of the LM line—particularly the distinctive canoe stern and pilothouse. In most respects, it is simply a larger version of the smaller models. The boat is 32 feet in length and has a 27-foot, 10-inch waterline; its beam is 10 feet 8 inches, and it draws 4 feet, 11 inches.
General - LM 32. GRP motorsailer LM 32 "Brandane", built in 1978 by LM Glassfiber AS Denmark, dim.: 9,75 (lwl 8,50) x 3,25 x 1,50 mtr, headway above waterline: 14,50 mtr, grp hull, deck and superstructure, teak in cockpit, windows in aluminium frames, roundbilged hull with rubbingstrake, fin keel, balanced rudder in skeg, displacement; 6 tonnes ...
The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for LM 32 is about 185 kg/cm, alternatively 1036 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 185 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 1036 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.
Lm 32 - Lm Glasfiber / STW002905 Edit Print Favorite sailboats The Lm 32 produced by the builder Lm Glasfiber and designed by Bent Juul Andersen, is a Motorsailer for cruise, rigged Sloop
Associations: Pacific Seacraft: Making the Journey. Download Boat Record: Notes. LOD = 31.5 ft. Available with a cutter rig. SA = 543 sqft. Shoal keel: draft - 4.08 ft; ballast = 5,200 lbs. Thanks to Pilothouse 32 owner John O'Donnell for the photo and some info.
Lm 32 ,Volvo apx. 30 hp with sail dive . 12000 btu air conditioner main, jenny, spinnaker , riding sail. old spare main . Gps , autopilot , wind instruments , ect . excellent documentation . ... stove needs looked at . Hot water system , canvas , tiller and wheel , stern rail seats with cushions . Please google, lm 32 practical sailor for ...
New LM 32 owner and LM Owners member by dingusdingo Aug 25, 2023 3:12:08 GMT: What Are LM Wheelhouse Yachts Like? 10: 46: LM33 vitesse Cabrio Sail data by DEBBIE Aug 19, 2023 7:11:01 GMT: Photos of LM yachts - 5 Viewing. Let us see your LM! Photos of LMs underway, or in nice locations, particularly welcome. 13: 27: LM 31 Striker, LM Vitesse 33 ...
Some of the best-known LM models currently listed include: 28, 32, 35 and LM23. Various LM models are currently offered for sale by specialized yacht brokers, dealers and brokerages on YachtWorld, with listings ranging from 1975 year models up to 1999. LM By Condition. Used LM 5 listings. LM By Model.
LM 32 - Details. A superb example of the LM32. Built by LM Glassfiber AS Denmark. These solid motor sailers are much sought after with pilot house and cockpit helm positions. With excellent sea keeping, good sailing performance and passage making abilities. Well maintained over her lifetime, showing in the excellent condition.
Boats/Boat Model > LM 32. LM 32 Detailed Review. 1 of 1. If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of LM 32. Built by LM Glasfiber (DEN) and designed by Bent Juul Andersen, the boat was first built in 1977. It has a hull type of Long Keel and LOA ...