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Mini 12 meter America’s cup replica single person sailboat

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• Start date Apr 7, 2019
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Capt Robbie

That's cool. I like all the labels for the lines. Have you taken it out yet?  

I saw quite a few running around Marina del Rey (CA) a few decades ago. Have not seen any recently, but I'm sure they are still around. Looks like a very fun boat.  

The Lake Harriet Yacht Club here in Minneapolis has a number of them that they use for their adaptive sailing program for sailors with physical challenges. They are really cool boats and I'd love to get in one. Scroll down to the bottom of the page to get to this program. https://www.lhycsailing.com/racing/  

Very cool boat, Robbie!  

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Looks like it would be a fun boat.  

Michael Davis

I watched Dennis Conner and Terry McLaughlin match race mini-12's in Bedwell Harbour, South Pender Island many years ago.Brings back memories!  

Congratulations on your acquisition. Many years ago there were a couple of mini 12s at a local club. A friend was a member there and invited me to sail with him. We had a blast racing around the bay in them for a few hours one afternoon. The ones I sailed had a tiller in front of the seat rather than foot pedals. The tiller controlled the rudder through ropes so I can see how you could adapt either way. I believe they were set up for paraplegics without use of their legs. Very fun boats with a lot of strings to pull so they can be quite technical to race.  

It a 2.4M class boat. The illusions (I think) were made in the UK. Norlin also made them in Sweden. Quite the blast. Busy slow. As Danny notes the are a good AS boat, as long as the student has the mobility to get in, and the motor control to use the controls solo. At WYC we use adapted Solings.  

Brian, Toyed around with it last year. It's a real blast to sail. Remarkably fast and turns on a dime. Takes a little while to get use to it. Foot pedal steering is a little strange at first. I haven't used the spiniker yet because that halyard was not working last year. Over all this thing really is awesome to sail. Last year had a few learning curves to work out. One thing I did learn right out of the gate was how to launch it from the trailer. 1st attempt didn't go as planned. Put the mast up and all the standing and running rigging up with out any issues. Removed all the tie down straps from the trailer. Rolled it back down the ramp, so far so good. It started to float, and had to give it a little push to clear the trailer pads. Then it slipped off the trailer and floated back about six feet. Few seconds later it capsized and sank. I forgot to put the lead waight sin the keel, was a little top heavy. Fortunately nobody was around to see that, but I still thought it was pretty funny nevertheless. What guy ever reads a manual. After about an hour trying to get it floating again. Went sailing for hours, and had a blast. My wife said that I told her that I was only going to be out on the water for an hour. I was gone for two, but when I told what had happened, the one hour it took to re-float it doesn't count for my sailing time.  

Mark Maulden

I think I saw a bunch of these on the hard at the Royal Vic Yacht Club outside Victoria BC..  

kappykaplan

Capt Robbie said: What guy ever reads a manual. Click to expand

Hi, I looking at a mini 12 mtr. on trailer. I am glad I read about the chap who launched his off the trailer fully rigged and it rolled over. I would have done the same.  

Looks like a fun boat. All the skippers looked to be wearing dry suits. Makes me think it is a wet boat to sail. With so much of the hull beneath the water and so little free board, how do you keep it afloat? It looks like it could easily become a submarine. A fun one.  

It looks like a blast to sail. I would be up for a test sail If I found one.  

Capt Robbie said: JSsailem, Very little freeboard, and you do get wet a lot, but that's half the fun!! It has air tight compartments to prevent it from sinking, however you can submerge the stern. That makes it a little chalanging to get going again. Just learned how to pump out fast Over all still a blast to sail. Click to expand

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Anyone familiar with Mini 12 Meter sailboats?

• Thread starter John in MA
• Start date Jun 11, 2007

Respect the gamba tuba

• Jun 11, 2007

Just wondering about this. A local boatyard has one of these things sitting around, trying to sell it for the owner. About 10' long, with the lines of an old America's Cup racer. Supposedly has the rigging and other important parts, plus a cradle. So-so condition overall. Originally they said $100, when they called the owner he said $300 and I sort of blew it off. Now looking around the internet I'm wondering if it might be worth going back and haggling for.  

Feats Don't Fail Me Now

Would love to see a pic of that boat...sails would probaly run $2K just for an average main and jib...not to mention what TLC the rigging needs...I would bet it would be a beautiful one off when its done but it will cost $$$ to get into that game.  

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• Jun 12, 2007

They are very attractive, but more like toys than real boats. Then again, for a couple of hundred bucks, it may be worth picking up. You'll pay far more that the purchase price to bring her back to proper sailing trim, I suspect. Wood hull or fiberglass?  

Fiberglass hull, has a few chips and a crack on the deck. Not sure of the brand but I think it's an Illusion. I gather most of these were made in the '80s before the 2.4m class was developed. It has at least a mainsail and probably the full kit. They had the rigging stashed inside and I didn't look at it. It's outfitted with a tiny little roller furler for the jib. The ballast was also out of the boat when I saw it. Not sure if it's missing or what. All the rest of the hardware is there, including a big bilge pump. Here's the general style: http://www.sailingtexas.com/sillusionmini12b.html  

second_wind

• Jun 14, 2007

Mini 12 I have one of these they are lots of fun to sail. Mine is an Oberg & Davis they were in Bristol Rhode Island and are since gone. Gavia yachts still makes them they are in Conn. I live in Hopedale Ma. Here is a link to the only U.S manufacterer http://www.gaviayachts.com/leader.htm  

Thanks. What do you figure one needing TLC might be worth?  

• Jun 15, 2007

2.4 metre It depends really on the condition if the keel ballast is still there as well as the rigging and all it needs is cosmetics $1500 $2000 if there is significant peices missing it could turn into an expensive project. I've seen these go on ebay for anywhere from $1500 to $4500. Let us know what you decide to do I may be interested in it if your not.  

• Jun 22, 2007

Talked to the owner today, going to look at it tomorrow. Needs a couple cracks in the deck fixed (minor, I've seen them), needs sheets and halyards, and a coat of paint. It has full gear and hardware, has both sails but in unknown condition. Might have a whisker pole, not sure. Comes with a little cradle. Ballast is missing but this series used bags of lead shot to adjust to the pilot. Over the phone he said $200, but I think he'd take less. Has that sound to his voice. I figure I can't go wrong for that price.  

Look forward to some pics...heck at that price you can't go wrong...those look like they may be a lot of fun to play in the wind...a  

• Jul 6, 2007

Looks like I bought it. The owner's opinion of the boat appears to have gone down since I last talked to him. 60 cans of Budweiser for his boatyard buddies and its mine. Pics to follow over the weekend, hopfully.  

• Jul 7, 2007
• Jul 12, 2007
• Aug 13, 2007

Not much progress on the boat. I've discovered how the mast was made and hopfully how to make a new one with what I have. Also found a few former and current owners of these things in town. Turns out there used to be a big fleet back in the '80s but the fad passed.  

• Sep 14, 2007

Started tearing it apart last week. Stripped down to a bare hull, sanded everything, even removed the rudder tube and fittings. I have a all-new steering system waiting to go in. Now I'm starting to reassemble things, and just today I started repairing the deck crack and fairing the hull. Looks like it was a small builder's product. Hull seems copied from an Illusion, the rigging is Illusion, but the deck and interior combine features from many boats and original ideas. It's not made as well as a real Illusion I looked at a few days ago.  

keep em' coming John (the updates)!!...and good luck with the overhaul...a  

• Sep 15, 2007

Very cool looking. Looks like only a small person could sail her comfortably. How about retrofitting the keel to a winged version for improved windward performance? Like to see pics when fully rigged...  

the-real-mandak

• Sep 17, 2007

Over here they are mainly used by disabled people to race in, since it is a really safe boat. it looks good on the water and is souppoused to sail quite well but I newer had the chance to sail in one, my brother did and he liked it.  

simul justus et peccator

• Sep 18, 2007

John, That's the best use of Budweiser I've seen since using it as a glass rinse! Way to go. :thmbsp: P.S. Bet the wife's happy, too.  

• Oct 2, 2007
• Sep 25, 2008

John: What is the hull number? The first 3 letters are the identifier for the manufacturer. The hull number should be somewhere on the edge of the upper deck near the stern or else on the upper part of the hull itself. The boat looks very much like a Millimeter Mini 12. I have a 1983 Millimeter and your boat looks like a newer version of mine. People always call these Illusions when in fact the Illusion was only build in the UK. Some were imported into the US and at last count that I know of, there were only 75 true Illusions in the US. There were other versions build under similar specs by various manufacturers in the US and elswhere. Your hull ID number will go a long way to identifying the manufacturer of this particular boat. Shaun  

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custom prototype Mini 12 Meter The URL for this page is Mini 12 Meter Added 22-Aug-2022 © 2001-2024 ./)   . . ./)   . . Search forums Sailing Anarchy 2.4mR / Mini 12's Whats the deal? Thread starter Dorado Start date Feb 7, 2009 More options Super Anarchist Feb 7, 2009 I've never sailed one but they look like big fun w/ little hassle Who's sailed them? Where do most of them live? What are the major differences between the 2.4 and the Mini/ Illusion/ Defender? Dawg, where in the delta?   Thread starter Sweet ! That's looking really good. I've read that there are several up in Seattle YC but that may be old news.   Newer 2.4's are by far more developed and much better boats the the earlier mini 12's of different designs. The most common design is the Norlin mkIII but there are several others that work as well. The build quality of the NIII varies considerably between differant builders and over time and the thing to look for is (as always) a light and stiff hull that allows you to maximize the ballast.   Feb 8, 2009 I've sailed a 2.4 in a couple of regattas. Got my ass kicked by the top disabled sailors, but had a few moments of glory despite my ineptitude in the boat. Note: expect ego to take a bruising when you jump into a new class for the first time at a Grade 1 international regatta! It's an absolute blast, because you're so close to the water, but takes some getting used to. You think, hey -I need a little jib trim, and you realize that 1/4" is A LOT of adjustment! Pretty close winded too, I was overstanding windward marks a lot. Lots to do at a leeward rounding, major props to the guys (and gals) like Dawg that have to steer with their hands while simultaneously retrieving the pole, trimming backstay, main, jib and all the dozen little controls. I thought seriously about trying to launch a local fleet, but then started sailing Vipers and having too much fun with that.   ZeroTheHero Dorado said: I've never sailed one but they look like big fun w/ little hassle Who's sailed them? Where do most of them live? What are the major differences between the 2.4 and the Mini/ Illusion/ Defender? Dawg, where in the delta? Click to expand... Dawg PM back at ya Hey I'm 6'4" 280lbs will I fit in one? :blink:   Dorado said: DawgPM back at ya Hey I'm 6'4" 280lbs will I fit in one? :blink: Click to expand... BalticBandit Dawg said: Dorado said: DawgPM back at ya Hey I'm 6'4" 280lbs will I fit in one? :blink: Click to expand... BalticBandit said: Dawg said: Dorado said: DawgPM back at ya Hey I'm 6'4" 280lbs will I fit in one? :blink: Click to expand... Feb 9, 2009 Bcam said: This time of year they race on Sunday @ 1300. If you are interested, come down. They are a friendly group who love to get new people in the boat. Click to expand... Dawg said: Bcam said: This time of year they race on Sunday @ 1300. If you are interested, come down. They are a friendly group who love to get new people in the boat. Click to expand... FWIW I think the boats sailed in the PNW and BC are primarily Illusions and Deceptions (not Defenders).   slater-san said: FWIW I think the boats sailed in the PNW and BC are primarily Illusions and Deceptions (not Defenders). Click to expand... Bcam said: The guys up here (Seattle) race with the Victoria fleet as well as some sailors from Vancouver. I haven't heard of any interaction with fleets from California. For the record, Seattle has 19 boats at last count. I think Victoria has about 30 boats split between Illusions and Defenders. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong :lol: Click to expand... We had 5 or 6 of them doing friday night beer cans in Alameda for years- spinnaker rigged etc. Cool boats they do look like alot of fun. Also looked very competitive.   Dawg said: Bcam said: The guys up here (Seattle) race with the Victoria fleet as well as some sailors from Vancouver. I haven't heard of any interaction with fleets from California. For the record, Seattle has 19 boats at last count. I think Victoria has about 30 boats split between Illusions and Defenders. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong :lol: Click to expand... Latest posts Latest: Snaggletooth A moment ago Latest: Zonker Latest: Stingray~ 1 minute ago Sailing Anarchy Podcast with Scot Tempesta Log in or Sign up You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser . Mini 12 or scale down America cup Discussion in ' Wooden Boat Building and Restoration ' started by bilco , Jan 27, 2005 . bilco Junior Member A group of my friends and I are looking at building 3 small keel boats (cold mold) to race on the Tamar river in Tasmania. We have a mixture of skills to get us through the project. But finding a design is proving very very hard. We were hopeing for a mini 12 or 2.4 mr looking boat ,but with a bulb keel. Can anyone offer any advice on where to get line drawings? Is it ok to scale down a large boat? We need a design that is great for racing.   Raggi_Thor Nav.arch/Designer/Builder If you scale down a larger boat you will normally increase the width (relatively) search on this fourm for that. Have you looked at http://www.sailingsource.com/24metre/ ?   PAR Yacht Designer/Builder Very rarely does a larger boat scale down well, particularly if the scaling factor will be big, as would be the case of a 12 meter down to a 2 meter. As a result of the changes made you'd likely have a 2 meter that doesn't look at all like the 12 you're trying to copy. Most of the 12 meter designs that you may be interested in will be under the protection of copyright and it would be illegal to copy it, even if the scale was changed. In a boat that size you just be able to fit your body, let alone counter balance a lofty AC rig. So, to answer your questions about scaling down as you hope. NO, it wouldn't be a wise idea, basically she'd just flop over on her side. If you scaled a 3 meter boat down you'd have a chance of success, but still would require a custom effort by a designer. There are thousands of small "sporty" craft designs available. Build one of those, rather then trying to invent a new class which you clearly aren't skilled enough to do yet. Do a search for keel boats and select a design very close to the size you need. Until you gain a great deal more experience, don't change the scale of the design, just build it and have fun. A used International 2.4 meter will run about 5000 euros, a well equipped one 6 to 7000 euros. You'll be hard pressed to build for that and it's a class boat so there will be locals you can race, besides your friends.   Richard Petersen Guest I am missing something on this scaling plans up and down. I have had plans scaled up by 6.5 times in 1 pass, and the enlarged blue prints retained the proportions perfectly. Why was I, O K ?   Richard, I don't think they want to decrease the size of the plans, but in fact the design itself. Lets take a look at L. F. Herreshoff's R-boat Yankee and try to scale her down. She's a little over 37' LOD has a 26' LWL, a beam of about 6'8" and around 9' of draft. Bring this down in scale to 12' LOD (approximately 3x reduction) her LWL is about 8'5", beam 2'3" and draws almost 3' of water. This makes a boat narrower then most canoes with a 3' draft. The same works in reverse, except you end up building a boat with way to much beam for her length. A 22' LOA, 20 LWL, 8' beam centerboard sailor scaled up 3 times would make a 66' LOA, 60' LWL, 24' beam centerboarder and clearly too fat a boat.   I always forget to scale down the people and " Reynolds numbers and their brethern ".   There have been a few attempts to use scaling factors to straighten this out, but none work real well. In small increases and decreases, more then just changing the station spacing would permit, the conversion formulas seem to work okay, but when the ratio gets over a certain percentage it goes to hell pretty quickly. The International 2.4 is patterned after the AC boats and does have an AC style sheer, appendage profiles, bow and stern profiles worked into the design, but that's about as close as they can get in this scale. They do look pretty good on post cards (just like snow) It's what construction workers would call a 80 footer (woman walking 80' away) As she got within 70 feet you'd see what was really going on and get back to work . . .   B. Hamm Junior Member The Norlin is basically a one design and the most popular boat in the 2.4 meter class. But the class is really a developement class so there should be home built plans available. These boats though are not inexpensive to build for their size, they have relatively high weights and the rig is complicated, along with something like 400 lbs. of ballast. For the past few years I've been working on a very simple mini keel boat of around 12 ft. but designed for homebuilders. Unfortionately right now it's incomplete and the prototype never has been built, not yet anyway. This one would though be a bunch less expensive to build. Bill H.   pathetic New Member Hey i am looking for plans for a mini-12 or 2.4 mr for me and my dad to build if anyone could help me out tha would be great. Thanks matt   yokebutt Boatbuilder Look a little bit up north, I know they designed at least one good 12 meter up there. Seriously, any decent yacht designer can provide you with a suitable shape. Yokebutt.   Tactic Junior Member What about something like this? Tactic   Attached Files: marshmat Senior Member It'll be hard to find something race-ready in that size. Tactic's pic there looks about as good as you'll get. You need something that's designed from the outset to be this size. As everyone else has said, scaling a larger boat simply will not work. The CG, CB, metacentric height, centre of sail effort, etc. will all be different and the boat will not perform well at all. If you refine your search, you should find a few more designs like the one in post #11 above that will suit your needs.   Thee are a few similar production boats avalible.I have searched and searched but have been unable to find plans for anything like this.So I designed my own. I am interested in taking the concpt further,The design i have shown can be built by a amatuer using various strip planking methods. Cheers tactic   byankee Junior Member mini-cup plans - FREE see http://www.stevproj.com/MiniCup.pdf doesn't have a fixed keel and the rig is wrong but the hull sure looks right - modify to your liking???   Advertisement: RWL Junior Member There is a very active Mini 12 fleet in the Pacific Northwest, with about 40 or 50 boats between the Royal Victoria Yacht Club (Victoria Canada) and the Seattle Yacht Club. I believe the Seattle Yacht club has purchased a number of Victoria designed Mini 12s in the last year or two. They are being produced by John Booth (Booth Enterprises I think is the business name) in Victoria. They are called Deceptions. I would guess you could contact the Royal Victoria Yacht Club to find out who is the class representative this year. RWL   Mini speed boat Kit Solo Canoe - Minimalist Design Hybrid Aluminium/Steel Plywood Hard-Chine Hulls first go at steam bending (on a tiny scale) No, create an account now. Yes, my password is: Forgot your password? Go to This is an Illusion Mini 12, it is a single person racing boat that was designed to look like the America's Cup 12 meter racing boats. They were first produced in the early 80's, and you can get new ones today for about $7000. They became very popular with older sailors because they have all the control lines of a big boat, but are only piloted by a single person so you don't have to worry if your crew is going to show up or not. (you don't have to use all the control lines, can sail just fine with just the basics) Another big aspect of racing them is that because you sit inside and can't hike out, it doesn't matter how athletic (or non-athletic) the captain is, everyone is equal. Very comfortable to sail, has a molded seat that is nice to sit on and you steer with your feet. Doesn't feel like a kayak, and the opening where you get in is so large that it is very easy to get in and out of, and don't feel like would become entrapped in it if capsized. Just a hoot to sail, very fun - really is a keel boat that you can drive against the wind and heal way over. Very unique feeling being right there next to the water. Has a bilge pump mounted just forward of where you sit so if you take on water, can pump it out. Also has full reserve floatation so if you become totally swamped it will float so you can bail the water out. Currently this one has 250 lbs of loose lead in the keel, and I weigh almost 300 lbs and the hull floats above the waterline, so more ballast could be added. Originally designed to have bags of lead shot put in the keel, but I have some bars lead and some wheel weights in bags in there. The trailer is included, roller furling jib, main, spinnaker and whisker pole. All sails are in excellent shape, very crunchy and practically new. Great choice! Your favorites are temporarily saved for this session. Sign in to save them permanently, access them on any device, and receive relevant alerts. Sailboat Guide 1984 custom prototype Mini 12 Meter Description Seller's Description Mini 12 Prototype sailing sloop modeled after the 12 Meter Stars and Stripes. New sails (main and Jib) in 2018. 2 spinnakers, spare mast and boom. Holsclaw trailer,(not registered) Rig and Sails Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations. The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more. Classic hull speed formula: Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL Sail Area / Displacement Ratio A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more. SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3 SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay). D : Displacement in pounds. Ballast / Displacement Ratio A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize. Ballast / Displacement * 100 Displacement / Length Ratio A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³ D: Displacement of the boat in pounds. LWL: Waterline length in feet Comfort Ratio This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more. Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 ) D: Displacement of the boat in pounds LOA: Length overall in feet Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet Capsize Screening Formula This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more. CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64) This listing is presented by SailboatListings.com . Visit their website for more information or to contact the seller. 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Deception Class Mini 12's are Back The other Mini 12 fleet is not really a Mini 12 rather it is called the 2.4m Class and they really do not have the classic lines of a 12 meter like the Deception Class does. ... They look like bigger boats though, in fact they look like the boats they are modeled after, the wonderful 12 metre America's Cup boats from the 1970s and 80s ... Mini 12 meter America's cup replica single person sailboat Then he started taking orders for them thru sail magazine for about $12,000 delivery date from start to finish approximately six weeks. Boat is a scale replica of 12 meter America's cup racing yachts Intrepid or courageous. Found few you tube vids of people racing. But that's all the info I was able to obtain so far. Millimeter Mini 12 Sailboat Millimeter Mini 12 Sailboat, 1/5th scale America's Cup 12 Meter Racing Yacht. The boat is a scaled down version of the classic 12 Meter America's Cup boat of... Illusion Mini 12 Expired. $1,500 USD. Seller's Description. Illusion Mini 12 Excellent condition. Re-painted and new Harken blocks added. 2 mains, 2 jibs with furlers, spinnaker. With trailer. Has 200lbs of lead pellet bags for ballast. Nothing like being laid over close hauled with your head inches from the water in the complete security of a ballasted keel boat. Mini-12 Mini-12 is a 9′ 10″ / 3 m monohull sailboat designed by Judel/Vrolijk & Co. starting in 1981. Great choice! Your favorites are temporarily saved for this session. ... The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. Formula. D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³ D ... Anyone familiar with Mini 12 Meter sailboats? The first 3 letters are the identifier for the manufacturer. The hull number should be somewhere on the edge of the upper deck near the stern or else on the upper part of the hull itself. The boat looks very much like a Millimeter Mini 12. I have a 1983 Millimeter and your boat looks like a newer version of mine. Millimeter Mini 12 By ShortyPen Sailboat Guide Boat Name: Millimeter Mini 12: Manufacturer: Hull Type: Daysailor: LOA: 12'6" (3.81m) Beam (m) Weight (kg) Ballast (kg) Keel Type: fin keel: Berths: Draft Up (m) Draft Down (m) Year Start: Year End: Number Made: Country: MIC: Shortypen ID: 331: Clone [ definitions ] [ suggest corrections to specs ] Pictures ( post picture) Illusion 12 Mini 12 Meter Sailboat Vanguard 470 Sail Dinghy, LOA: 15.42' or 4.70 meter Sailboat - ready to sail. Make: Vanguard. Model: 1973. Year: 1973. Location: Saint Petersburg, Florida, United States. I am selling my Illusion 12 Mini 12 Meter sailboat. This class of boat was originally started in Germany in the 1980's and they are still racing these boats in Europe and in ... Mini 12 SYC Mini 12 Fleet. The Mini 12 Fleet at Seattle Yacht Club is unique. It is the only SYC small boat racing fleet in which each boat is member owned, but identical to all the others. We have 20 boats located on Dock 3, owned by 33 SYC members which have raced in over 4,000 races over 20 years-a statistic unmatched by any racing fleet in the ... Illusion Class Sailing Illusion Mini 12 meter racing at Bembridge Isle of Wight. Clips from Dylan Winters videos and others. For more details of how to take part contact National C... Illusion Mini 12 sailboat for sale 1991 Illusion Mini 12, hull # ilu12114191. This boat, to the best of my knowledge, has only been sailed in central Florida. The only major problem is the mast. The mast was in two pieces, I repaired the mast by inserting a metal sleeve inside the mast to reinforce the damaged section. 1983 Illusion Mini 12 Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale Illusion Mini 12, 1983 sailboat for sale Serial #001 LOA 12' LWL 10'6" Beam 33" Draft 27" Displacement with skipper and ballast 700 lbs. Main 34 sq. ft ... MINI 12 instruction manual complete detailed rigging along with racing rules for class racing. 520 pounds of ballast ... l987 Illusion mini-12 sailboat for sale l987 Illusion mini-12. LOA 15 ft. Beam 35". Draft 28". This clean mini-12 has a 2 place cockpit. Seating is tandem like a jet ski or motorcycle. The forward adjustable mesh sling-seat has foot pedal steering and the aft seat has joystick helm control. Rudder control is thru Teleflex cable. Mylar main w/new bolt rope on luff and foot. 1983 Illusion Mini 12 1983 Illusion Mini 12. Buford, Georgia, United States. Listed Jun 17. Expired. $6,950 USD. Seller's Description. Illusion Mini 12, 1983 12' Illusion Mini 1983 on Dilly Trailer This is a unique boat with beautiful custom inlaid wood deck and name plate on transom Main, Genoa, R/W/B Spinnaker and Ulmer All Necessary Hardware and Gear for Class ... Illusion Mini 12, 1983, Buford, Georgia, sailboat for sale from Sailing Illusion Mini 12, 1983. 12' Illusion Mini 1983 on Dilly Trailer. This is a unique boat with beautiful custom inlaid wood deck and name plate on transom. Main, Genoa, R/W/B Spinnaker and Ulmer. All Necessary Hardware and Gear for Class Racing. A Unique Sophisticated 12 Meter Racer with the Option of Being a Great Trainer! Equipment: HULL AND DECK-. 1984 custom prototype Mini 12 Meter sailboat for sale in New York New York. $2,000. Description: Mini 12 Prototype sailing sloop modeled after the 12 Meter Stars and Stripes. New sails (main and Jib) in 2018. 2 spinnakers, spare mast and boom. Holsclaw trailer, (not registered) Equipment: Location: Southampton, New York. L97374. ILLUSION 12 Notes. Spin.: 45 sq. ft. 'Mini 12'one-design single hander with pedal steering. Similar concept as the 2.4M but somewhat smaller. Ballast can be added or removed from a cavity within keel. Most recent Builder: Advanced Marine Structures. www.amstructures.co.uk. +44 (0) 1983 200011. 2.4mR / Mini 12's Whats the deal? Just got a piece of extrusion to build a mast out of yesterday. 2.4Meters are a bit longer/narrower than most of the "old" mini 12's and have a bigger rig with non-overlap jibs and no-spin . Millimeters, Defenders and Illusions tend to have overlapping genoas and spinnakers. To my eye the 2.4's and Defender 12's have nicer keels than the Milli ... Illusion Mini 12 sailboat for sale Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale . 1986 Illusion Mini 12 10 Foot Judel/Volijk design Boyce Spars - SS Rod Rigged Mast, Boom and spinnaker pole, original anodized finish. Standing and running rigging in good condition, the rudder is controlled by foot petals or converted to hand controls for handicapped sailors Mini 12 or scale down America cup Lets take a look at L. F. Herreshoff's R-boat Yankee and try to scale her down. She's a little over 37' LOD has a 26' LWL, a beam of about 6'8" and around 9' of draft. Bring this down in scale to 12' LOD (approximately 3x reduction) her LWL is about 8'5", beam 2'3" and draws almost 3' of water. This makes a boat narrower then most canoes with a ... Illusion Mini 12 sailboat for sale 1983 Illusion Mini 12, The Woodlands (near Houston), Texas, $2500, Sold. This is an Illusion Mini 12, it is a single person racing boat that was designed to look like the America's Cup 12 meter racing boats. They were first produced in the early 80's, and you can get new ones today for about $7000. They became very popular with older sailors ... 1984 custom prototype Mini 12 Meter Seller's Description. Mini 12 Prototype sailing sloop modeled after the 12 Meter Stars and Stripes. New sails (main and Jib) in 2018. 2 spinnakers, spare mast and boom. Holsclaw trailer, (not registered) Advertisement. catamaran gulet motorboat powerboat riverboat sailboat trimaran yacht