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Anchor chain size- Thread starter curlew
- Start date Apr 11, 2011
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Have a Maxwell 500 windlass on our Catalina 310 that has a 1/4 inch chain gypsy and a rope capstan as well. The chain size looks small and would like comments on whether i should upgrade to 5/16 chain. Has anyone put a 5/16 chain gypsy on the maxwell 500 winch? cheers Curlew 11 in Tasmania I think you will find parts for the Maxwell impossible to acquire. I would like to upgrade to a rope/chain gypsy, and have been unsuccessful in finding the kit they used to have for that upgrade. HOWEVER, if you DO find parts, please post here. I think there are a few folks who would be interested. FWIW - I use 35' of 5/16 chain spliced to 200' of 1/2" nylon. Works OK on the rope gypsy alone (sort of). Regards, Jon Freeman C-310 "Summer Sojourn" Tacoma, WA USA Info here http://www.rocna.com/kb/Chain#Sizing would indicate either 1/4 or 5/16 as suitable depending on your assumptions. I also use 5/16 with nylon on the stock rope (only) gypsy and find it workable. Thanks for your prompt replies. It is indeed a challenge to buy maxwell parts. It seems they just want us to buy a new winch! I will keep trying and if I have any luck I will post an address.At present we have 5metres of 3/8 chain shackled to 30 metres 1/4 inch chain and then 20 metres rope. I really would prefer to have all 5/16 chain. Its nice to sleep at night. Cheers Curlew11 Curlew Yes I use the chain shown on My Maxwell 500. Well if the anchor isn't set and the anchor doesn't hold...............Good night Johnboy. Wichard long D shackle 1414 breaking load 8,000lbs 1/2' nylon line premium white 3 strand 7500 lbs breaking strength 1/4' HIGH TEST CHAIN swl 2600 lbs Used this chain calculation for wieght 1/4" anchor chain is 113#/100' =1.13 #/ft 58' X 1.13 = 65.54 lbs I also wear rubber gloves while on anchor duty....... paulj :troll: Attachments- ANCHOR chain, rode and shackle loads.txt 281 bytes Views: 283
Thanks Paul J thats what I needed to hear. Someone else is using 1/4 inch chain without problems on a Catalina 310. I guess all I need now is the rubber gloves Cheers Des curlew said: Thanks for your prompt replies. It is indeed a challenge to buy maxwell parts. It seems they just want us to buy a new winch! I will keep trying and if I have any luck I will post an address.At present we have 5metres of 3/8 chain shackled to 30 metres 1/4 inch chain and then 20 metres rope. I really would prefer to have all 5/16 chain. Its nice to sleep at night. Cheers Curlew11 Click to expand I use 100' of 5/16 chain, with 100' of 5/8" nylon. Tried to buy a conversion kit for the Maxwell 500 that had the chain gypsy. That was a couple of years ago, and Maxwell only had one left. They also wanted $900 for it. So, I'm still anchoring by hand, and the windlass has never been used. Thanks for your input Tom. I think like you this size of boat needs 5/16 chain,and a 100ft of it. I,m not having any luck obtaining the bigger gypsy,they started off by suggesting a 5/16 gypsy from their new range of winches,but changed their mind,stating that the maxwell 500 would not be stong enough to lift the heavier chain. doesn,t make a lot of sense to me especially if you move the boat fwd under engine power,then just retreive the chain with the winch. I will keep trying . Cheers Des curlew I've read all of the above comments and you've received the correct advice. To summarize: As to your Maxwell windlass, I have researched the issue extensively. Last year I just replaced my VW 500 (capstan only) with a VWC 500 (gypsey, chainwheel or wildcat, or whatever you want to call it). There used to be a conversion kit but they are no longer available so don't waste your time looking for one. Yes indeed, the Maxwell VWC will not handle a chain greater than 1/4 inch and there is no way of getting around that. I also feel that a 5/16 inch chain would be much more appropriate but I had to make the compromise. The next size up is the Maxwell VWC 1000 (they discontinued the 800) which will accept a 5/16 chain but it does not have the same footprint as the VWC 500, will be harder to install, and weighs twice as much as the VWC 500. I tried to use a 5/16 inch chain on the gypsey of the VCW 500 and it simple will not work. I'm counting on a somewhat oversized anchor to make up for the marginal chain size Good luck Jeff - This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies. Accept Learn more…
Yacht Sank in Sicily Due to ‘Endless Chain of Errors,' Ship Maker's Owner Speculates: ‘Everything Was Predictable’"A series of activities should have been done to avoid finding oneself in that situation," argues Giovanni Costantino, who owns the firm that built the vessel in 2008 - Giovanni Costantino — who is the CEO of The Italian Sea Group, the company that now owns Perini Navi, which built the Bayesian in 2008 — blames an "endless chain of errors" for the luxury yacht’s sinking on Monday, Aug. 19
- "Everything was predictable. I have the weather charts in front of me here," Constantino told Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera of the storm the boat was caught in
- "An unsinkable ship but from the crew an endless chain of errors," the CEO claimed to the outlet
The sinking of the luxury Bayesian yacht off the coast of Sicily this week resulted from an "endless chain of errors" by the crew, the ship maker's CEO is speculating. "This episode sounds like an unbelievable story, both technically and as a fact," Giovanni Costantino — who leads The Italian Sea Group, the company that now owns Perini Navi, which built the Bayesian in 2008 — said, according to CNN . While speaking to Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera , Costantino said he believes those on board should not have been in their cabins, as he claims they were, when the Bayesian sank in the early hours of Monday, Aug. 19. Many details of why the yacht went into the water so quickly remain unclear and it's not yet known what the passengers and crew were doing before tragedy struck. The 183-foot British vessel sank around 5 a.m. local time on Monday after a "violent storm" while near Porticello, the Italian coast guard said in a statement that was previously obtained by PEOPLE. "Everything that has been done reveals a very long sum of errors. The people should not have been in the cabins, the boat should not have been at anchor. And then why didn't the crew know about the incoming disturbance?" Costantino said in his interview, translated from Italian. Related: Italian Authorities Currently Don’t Have Anyone ‘Under Investigation’ over Luxury Yacht Sinking "The passengers reported an absurd thing, namely that the storm came unexpected, suddenly. It's not true. Everything was predictable. I have the weather charts in front of me here. Nothing came suddenly ... Ask yourself, why was no fisherman from Porticello out that night? A fisherman reads the weather conditions and a ship doesn't? The disturbance was fully readable in all the weather charts. One could not not know," he argued. "An unsinkable ship but from the crew an endless chain of errors," the CEO asserted. The coast guard has said 22 people were aboard the Bayesian when it sank — 12 passengers and 10 crew — and that 15 of those were subsequently rescued. The body of the yacht's chef, Recaldo Thomas, was recovered nearby. Costantino's comments came as it was reported that five bodies had been found in the search for the missing six people as of Wednesday, Aug. 21, a source close to the rescue operations confirmed to PEOPLE. Authorities have said that their work is ongoing. An Italian government official, Massimo Mariani, reportedly named one of the dead as British tech tycoon Mike Lynch . The other bodies have not yet been publicly identified by authorities. Lynch was celebrating with family and friends on the yacht following his acquittal in a fraud trial in June, PEOPLE previously reported. Related: 'We Are in Shock,' Prominent N.Y.C. Attorney's Firm Says After He and His Wife Go Missing in Yacht Sinking Costantino offered his view of how the tragedy could have been avoided: "To begin with, in a weather alert situation it was inappropriate to have, as I read, a party. Not that evening. The hull and deck needed to be secured by closing all doors and hatches, after putting the guests at the ship's meeting point as per emergency procedure. Then start the engines and pull up the anchor or release it automatically, put the bow to the wind and lower the keel. "The next morning they would have departed with zero damage." When discussing whether the crew were at fault, Costantino reiterated to the Italian outlet that he believes "errors were made." "A series of activities should have been done to avoid finding oneself in that situation," he said. "I as the ship's captain would have moved, but even if for some reason I had to stay there, I would have managed those weather conditions which then, let's face it, weren't so crazy." Never miss a story — sign up for PEOPLE's free daily newsletter to stay up-to-date on the best of what PEOPLE has to offer, from celebrity news to compelling human interest stories. Costantino contended that there would have been "a zero risk if the correct maneuvers had been made and if situations that compromised the ship's stability had not occurred," adding to the newspaper that reports that the boat went down in seconds is "nonsense." He believes the yacht would have "went down" after water "started to enter" within "six minutes." The remaining missing Bayesian passengers are Lynch's daughter Hannah as well as Chairman of Morgan Stanley International Jonathan Bloomer, his wife, Judy , and New York City-based lawyer Christopher Morvillo and his wife, Neda , sources have said. 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Another issue is matching the gypsy on the windlass to the chain size and type. A windlass gypsy designed for 5/16″ High Test chain will not work on 5/16″ BBB, which has shorter, more compact links. ... Boat Size. 0- 14 feet 1,000 lbs. 14-20 feet 5000 lbs. 20-30 feet 11,000 lbs. 30-35 feet 15,000 lbs. 35-40 feet 20,000 lbs. 40-45 feet ...
Anchor Chain Size Rule of Thumb. There is an old rule of thumb that dates back many years, which states a requirement of 1/8" chain diameter for every 9 or 10 feet of boat length - with approximate metric conversions: e.g. 1/4" now available as 6mm DIN766 chain would be up to 20 or 23 feet Yacht LOA, 7mm DIN766 chain would be up to 23 or 27 ...
Round your boat length up to the nearest length overall in the table and do the same for your beam. Then choose the largest chain indicated by either of those numbers. If you have a thirty-four-foot boat with a ten-foot beam, your suggestions are 3/8" (from rounding 34 to 35) and 5/16".
The most common chain grades used for anchor rodes on recreational boats are G30, G40, G43, and G70. Chain marked as G30, G40, or G43 is made from carbon, or mild, steel. Chains denoted as G70 are heat-treated steel, commonly quenched and tempered (the same process used for some anchor shanks). Quench and tempered steels are made to specific ...
Anchor Chain Sizing. Step 1 - Determine the length of your boat. The boat's specification sheet, and sometimes the owner's manual, will have your boat length listed. However, if you're unsure of your boat length, measure the hull, from the tip of the bow to the center of the stern. Be certain to use a measuring tape that will not ...
Then pull out the chain, putting the anchor at the first mark then stretching it out straight between the marks, turning it at each mark to measure each "unit" while flaking the chain back and forth on the work surface. Make sure the chain dries completely if you've used it recently, then make your surface preparations.
Boat Size. As a rule, your anchor chain should be at least as long as your boat, but no shorter than 10 to 15-feet. Your anchor line length will depend on anchoring depth. If you will be anchoring in deeper water, you will need enough rode to achieve a proper scope ratio. The rule of thumb is to plan 8-feet of line per 1-foot of anchoring depth ...
A more powerful version of this online app, that can also do a mix of chain and rope, can be found on Apple Store and Google Play. The free anchorchaincalculator web app allows you to calculate the anchor load and the minimally required chain length based on your vessel's characteristics as well as sea and weather conditions.
These sizes refer to ANSI (American National Standards Institute) Roller Chain Standard chain dimensions. #50 chain has a 5/8" pitch (measure from center of one roller link to another) and a width of 3/8" between links (measured inside the chain). #60 chain has a 3/4" pitch and a .5" width. These two dimensions are called out as "P" and "B1" in ...
Chain Size This depends on the grade you choose, your yacht length, windage, and displacement, your anticipated cruising plans, and your corresponding reliance on anchoring. In Europe, we have metric sizing in 1mm or 2mm increments, e.g. 6mm, 7mm, 8mm, 10mm, 12mm, 13mm, 14mm.
Consult manufacturer guidelines on their recommendations for anchor sizing based on boat length. Chain and Rode Size. The anchor rode, which connects your boat to the anchor, is critical for holding power. The scope, typically measured in a ratio of the rode's length to the water's depth, is an important factor for the anchor's ...
When selecting how much rope and chain you need there are a couple of rules of thumb to use. You should have 8 feet of rope for every 1 foot of water you will be anchoring in. Your rope should have 1/8" of rope diameter for every 9' of boat. So this means a 28' boat would want at least a 3/8" or 1/2" diameter rope.
Typically: 4 to 5 times the complete anchoring depth. Lunch hook: 3 times the complete anchoring depth. Bad weather: 5 to 7 times the complete anchoring depth. Use a smaller scope when the anchorage is crowded or has restricted space. The complete anchoring depth is the total depth at high tide + the height of the anchor roller from the waterline.
ANCHOR CHAIN. As a rough guide to the right size chain for your boat, in 8mm Grade 30 chain is sufficient for boats up to about 37ft, 10mm up to 45ft and 12mm above that, but the displacement of the boat is an additional factor. There is also clearly a difference in the chain needed for weekend pottering and extended high-latitude cruising.
10m. 11m. 44m. 24m. 68m. For a 12m boat carrying a 20kg anchor, 70m of 10mm chain is probably as much weight as you'd want in your anchor locker, but this would still give you a 4:1 scope in 15m (50ft) depth of water. Which is why on Alacazam (11.5m loa) we have a 20kg Rocna anchor, 70m of 10mm HT chain, and a further 30m of multiplait anchor ...
Much to our surprise, the weight recommendations for the new designs, Rocna, Excel, Supreme, etc. are very similar to the weight recommendation for the older, traditional models, CQR, Delta, Bruce etc. In both cases, the recommendation for a 35-foot yacht is approximately a 30-pound anchor. The exceptions are aluminum anchors from Fortress and ...
Anchor Sizing. When sizing an anchor or anchor rode, it's useful to have starting point and to think of the whole system. This is a table developed by American Boat and Yacht Council (ABYC) to approximate the expected load on the anchor and the anchor rode for given wind speed and boat length. The complete table appears in Section H-40 of ...
The right size chain will help you set your anchor quickly and keep it in place. It's also important to use a chain that is strong enough to hold your boat in place during high winds and rough seas. The most common size for boat anchor chains is 5/16 inch. This size is strong enough to hold most boats in place, but it's also lightweight and ...
Use shackles one size larger than the chain (1/4" chain would use 5/16" shackles) In general the load on an anchor line varies with the square of the LOA of the boat. A high windage, heavy displacement boat such as a trawler or fishing boat will require heavier anchor rode than an ultra-light racing sailboat of the same LOA.
10mm G4 chain is about 2.2 kg/m with a working load of 1250kg. 10mm G7 chain is about 2.2 kg/m with a working load of 2200kg. 12mm G4 chain is about 3.8 kg/m with a working load of 2120kg. So 12 mm chain will add about 150kg (330lb) 26-03-2014, 14:28. # 11.
Horses for courses, and the big boat answer is not better for the smaller boat. As for the OP (30' mono), 1/4 G4 (2600-pound WLL) is all the chain the needs, particularly when coupled with 1/2-inch nylon. ABYC only calls for 1400-pound WLL. A modern (Spade/Rocna/ Mantus/Manson Supreme) 25-pound anchor should do fine.
Seems that the more places you look, the more answers you get. I would like to know the proper chain size for a 45' sloop, weight approx. 26K. Would appreciate your feedback?\u000BThanks\u000B\u000BAndy
The chain size looks small and would like comments on whether i should upgrade to 5/16 chain. Has anyone put a 5/16 chain gypsy on the maxwell 500 winch? cheers ... Thanks for your input Tom. I think like you this size of boat needs 5/16 chain,and a 100ft of it. I,m not having any luck obtaining the bigger gypsy,they started off by suggesting a ...
Giovanni Costantino — who is the CEO of The Italian Sea Group, the company that now owns Perini Navi, which built the Bayesian in 2008 — blames an "endless chain of errors" for the luxury ...
Mr Lynch had brought together family, friends and colleagues for an idyllic holiday on his luxury boat: a sumptuous 56-metre (184ft) sailing yacht that won design awards and had the world's ...
The Bayesian, a British flagged 56-metre (184-feet) superyacht, sank in the dark shortly before 5 am (0300 GMT) off the port of Porticello, near Palermo, after being hit by a "violent storm," the ...