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I can't find much info on the EDEL 665 in English on the web. I know they were made in France and Canada. How do they sail? How many people could comfortably go out for weekend cruise? Are they fast, stable... I am looking at buying one as a first sail boat and any info would be appreciated.

They are a pretty little boat. But these numbers: Specifications for the Edel 665 LOA 21.8 ft. LOD 21.8 ft. LWL 18.2 ft. Beam 8.2 ft. Draft 3.2 ft. Displaces 3,484 lbs. Ballast 882 lbs. Mast Height 29.8 ft. Sail Area 211.0 sq. ft. Performance Indicators D/L 258 B/D 25 % SA/D 14.7 Comfort 16.2 Capsize 2.17 L/B 2.7 .. indicate a pretty heavy boat for its size. With a Cat 22 at 2500#, Oday 222 at 2200#, Tanzer 22 at 2900 all with similar sail area this makes the Edel look a bit overweight - which will affect boat speed to a degree in certain conditions. The other stats don't point to exhilarating performance either. However if you're not racing, this could be a comfy cruiser in that size range though probably tender with only a 25% ballast ratio. The layout is a bit unconventional with what appears to be a single forward rather than a V berth but the main salon seems to make into a decent double. Here's a bunch of links with pics and data (you've probably seen these already) edel 665 sailboat - Google Search I've not sailed one and am just going by the "numbers' but do recall a fairly nice fit and finish when they were new. Not many around either, but I'm assuming you've found one locally?

You're right, other sites show a much more likely displacement around 2400 lbs which is more in line with the others.... sorry about that.

I found a spec sheet (from the original brochure) that states displacement of 3400+ with an empty weight os 2403. Water ballast possibly? I can find no mention of it though. Brian

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Yes, that's strange... from that era water ballast would be unlikely, I'd expect, but it's unlike the manufacturers to list a loaded displacement, so maybe that's with full tanks and crew??

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Welcome, I currently own a 1981 Edel 665 Great little boat. We have sailed with out family of 5 comfortably. 2 adults and 3 teenage boys, by oldest is 6'3" 230lb, similar to myself. We get around the boat ok, inside can be a little cramped, but we manage. Overnight trip once with everyone on boat, that was a little cozy, but with the wife and I it is just fine. Our total weight would be in the 950lb range. Noticed the difference at motor, but at sail she was fine. We did have 8 people on board once for a fireworks deal 2 little ones, just motored out and floated to watch. That was a little low on the waterline but it was fine. I have the original brochure I can scan a copy for you if you would like.

I can't send you a PM yet I don't have enough posts. Apparently you need 5 posts before you can PM other members. I would love to see the brochure, can it be posted here?

Not sure myself, I will scan it and see if I can attach it can't see why not. I will put it up tomorrow. Dave

This should be my 5th post so I will try to send you a PM.

Hi, I am also an Edel665 owner (1980). I am in hopes to clear a few issues with this thread. First the empty weight is as the brochure states, 2,403 lb. This is all gear it was sold with (cushions,anchor,sails,PFD's,mast and boom,running and standing rigging),no motor. Put the boat in the water and it will displace 2403 pounds of water (physical law.) The displacement of 3,484 lb, is Maurice Edel's Design displacement. Thus 3484-2403=1081 lb, is needed to bring the hull (sink) down to the intended water line, so that the boat will sail with its designed "wetted surface". This is why the Edel665 should not be sailed at no more than 12 degrees heal, because more than that puts more boat in the water. We Yank's distorted the the displacement figures of sailboats for obscure reasons, and thus the ambiguity about how much a sailboat weighs under full crew and gear. If I were an dishonest sailor , I could handicap my boat at 3484, and win the coarse every time.

Displacement of a boat on the spec sheet is usually the "designed displacement" and doesn't include the driver, his guests or loose gear unless stated otherwise. The Edel spec sheet is the only one I've ever seen done in that unique way.

I believe the intent was to convey to buyers of the edel665, that this could easily be a "trailer sailor". By knowing the empty weight of the boat, the weight of the trailer, the owner could know if his towing vehicle was capable,as well as not exceeding GVW ratings. I had my edel665 craned off a trailer by the single cable lifting hook in the keel, and the crane scaled it at 2800, its bilges were full of frozen water.

so how is the edel for performance? im looking at buying one and it looks to be a well designed boat

Edel Performance I have a 1981 665. Great boat. I have sailed in 30 knot winds with the second reef in and a small jib to keep her balanced. No problem. When overpowered she rounds up and you can just let the sheet out to keep her going. One nice thing about this boat is that you can still handle the sheets in big wind. Everything is right there by the tiller (mainsheet, jib sheet). I have had this boat surfing at 9mph on the GPS with wind on the stern quarter. She performs best loaded (wl length) and sailed at 10-15 degrees. Just keep the weight out of the ends. I upgraded to standing headroom (pearson 31-2), no twofootitis here. My 665 is for sale in Ontario.

Bluewater665: Is your boat still for sale? If so, could you send me more details.

While I do not own an Edel, but i have sailed one several different times, We had it doing 6.1-6.6 knots in heavy winds; with the first reef in the main, and a partially roller reefed 150, so they are considerably fast for a 22 footer. The owner hauls it out seasonally with his 4x4 and a tongue extension right beside his dock. A very slick procedure! Its one of the most fun sailboats I have ever sailed on (aside from a soling) It points really well and is very stable going upwind. The cabin is huge compared to other 22's with a smart and functional layout. The brochure states it sleeps five; my rule of thumb is that you divide this number by 2 to find out how many it will sleep comfortably, in the case of the edel the answer is 3. While it can sleep 5 in a pinch, you would be crazy to do this. Adam Here is a collection of Edel 665 pictures: Flickr: AdamHowie's Photostream

My memory may be failing me, OK it is failing me, but I seem to recollect that Tania Aebi whose ad apepars on this page may have sailed one from France to the US or Canada. I remember the boat being on display at the Toronto boat show. Might have been a bigger Edel ?

A Contessa 26 was the only small boat she sailed as I recall. Named Varuna.

Hi all, I'm new to sailing, and my family is also cosidering an Edel 665 as well that has come available locally. I have scoured the net and could find very little on these in terms of reviews. We are looking to do coastal cruising around Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia, weekending, possibly some racing for fun. Any thoughts on the Edel 665 in terms of safety, stability, construction and value retention?

Hello, I have an Edel 4 - the same as you are looking for I think? It is a pretty roomy boat for the size, won't plane to windward, but pretty good off the wind. Sailed mine from Cean to La Rochelle - Alderney Race, Channel de Four and Raz de Siene - pretty comfy in wobbly water and a lot drier than some bigger boats in the races - didn't get much green water at all! A good solid first boat, pretty forgiving and not too serious if you run out of water - with the stub keel and lifting plate. Done a few jobs on mine and impressed by the build quality - GO FOR IT!

I figured I would try to revive this old thread in the hopes of stirring up more information. I am wondering about this boat as a trailerable fixed keel family cruiser that I can haul behind my V6 Santa Fe. There seem to be quite a few in my area, which makes sense, because the first Canadian run was built in Montreal. The layout I get, I'm wondering how the boat sails. Usage would be cautious coastal cruising on the Gulf of St Lawrence, Great Lakes, as well as sheltered water. From what I painstakingly read in original French literature, they were originally marketed as a Coastal Cruiser and over 1500 of them were built in France, so they must have had some positive qualities. They are an interesting layout below with 5' of headroom, a head and a small galley, which is not bad for a 21 1/2 foot boat. They are a reasonable draft and weight for towing. What I can't get a sense for is their sailing performance. I did some PHRF searches and it's clear they were not a racing boat, as there is pretty well nothing. I did find one in BC with a 274. At first I almost laughed, but then when I searched other displacement hull, non racing 21 1/2 footers, it could be worse, plus, I have no idea if that is even an accurate figure as I only found one reference to it in an old PDF file. I get it, that 5' of headroom, light displacement and shallow keel are going to come at a price, but, performance is not primarygoal. I am wondering if this boat would be a frustrating and infuriating boat to sail to windward though. Has anybody sailed one of these things upwind? Some of them appear to have been very well taken care of with some nice upgrades.

Hi, if you go back and read my post on this thread you will understand that the Edel665 weight is 2406 lbs. Add the trailer weight (my trailer is a pig at 1090 pounds) and you eill be towing at about 3600 to 3700 pounds. Your vehicle should have towing capicity in the owners manual. My 96 Dodge Dakota does not have a problem towing my 665. But I have had no time to sail it since I baught it. I have discovered on my Edel665 that the mast step has three positions (looks factory). Technically the further forward the mast the higher the boat (and round up quicker) will point, but I would step the mast further aft for flying a chute or Spinniker. Maurice Edel designed the 665 for Island sailing the Mediterranean, and for off shore cruising. Incidentally Maurice Edel also designed the Helios, which is an unsinkable 50' Trimaran. All Edels ecept the 665 were manufactured in France. The Edel 665 (660 in France) was manufactured in Canada for three years from 1979 to 1982, with runs of 920 each year. Maurice Edel had no involvement in the Canadian production, he only licensed the brand to the Manufacturer. I have all my research on a laptop that wont boot (😕). After the Canadian firm in Quebec stoped production in '81, an investor baught the molds and tried a production in British Columbia, with less than 30 completed. The molds are rumored to gave been destroyed there. If all goes well, I will get my Edel665 in the water this summer. If you are considering a sailing vessel of this size, you could'nt go wrong. It (my opine) is more comfortable than the Catalina or O'Day of the same size, and looks better😉 Just be honest with your entry weight if you race, lol. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

Ya, probably a bit heavy for my SUV (3500 lb tow rating). I've watched some videos on YouTube of them sailing some pretty open water on the med and the east coast of France in some fairly rough stuff. They look like decent sea boats, but hard to tell much from a short video clip. I know there were some Edel 820's made in Canada too, because I looked at one. It was a fairly nice boat.

Most single axle trailers do not weigh mor than 600-700 lbs. And you may be right about the 820's being made in Canada to. My memory was foggy (been 8 years scince I did the research) when I posted this recent reply. The 540 was also ptoduced in Canada. And I also recall some Special 665's that had 2 feet more mast height. There is also a Yahoo groups for the Edel boats. Lots of picts and project info there. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

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10-09-2020, 22:54
	a 22' Edel to get more comfortable on the - it would be slipped at a marina year round and I'd likely never be more than a mile from shore. My son is 8 and takes on 10' but is obviously too young to rely on; my husband doesn't sail. It is intimidating to consider taking my out on a I can't sail well - but it does have an and i can't get better if i don't try. I'd love to hear anybody's thoughts on whether this is a terrible idea or a good way to scale up our skills. Thanks!

11-09-2020, 04:04

a 22' Edel to get more comfortable on the - it would be slipped at a marina year round and I'd likely never be more than a mile from shore. My son is 8 and takes on 10' but is obviously too young to rely on; my husband doesn't sail. It is intimidating to consider taking my out on a I can't sail well - but it does have an and i can't get better if i don't try. I'd love to hear anybody's thoughts on whether this is a terrible idea or a good way to scale up our skills. Thanks!

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	the Chesapeake in a Bristol 27'. DO NOT LET IT SCARE YOU or dissuade you from your lovely choice of boat. Just thought you might find it instructional. The post-discussion is quite informative as well. Please remember - this is an extreme situation: wind-over-tide (as they call it in England) and high winds and seas. See my earlier point about religiously checking the and the wind/sea state you're comfortable with.

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Boat: Morgan Out Island 41	like a big dinghy! Very responsive to the , but also demands that you pay attention to it. very maneouverable and fast! great fun with an asymetrical . Simple systems with only 1 thruhull for the sink so is a dry boat! It was probably the most fun of any sailboat I've owned!

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Boat: Mirage 35	in the small craft channel in Georgian Bay (narrow, complicated, lots of islands and rocks, for those who don't know it): a friend, more experienced than I, was at the - and everything else. A chart in one hand, the mainsheet in the other, the tiller under one knee - reassured me he didn't need any help. But, seriously, don't ask me for objective comments. I met my wife on an Edel 665 and still see both through rose-coloured glasses.

11-09-2020, 15:05
Boat: Pearson 10M	to encourage you to engage your son in the sailing adventure and to encourage him to push his limits at every opportunity. you'll be amazed at how much he can accomplish and with amazing speed. I often double handed our 33' boat with my daughter starting around the age of 5. It's OK to be scared, it's not OK to act scared. How does that translate to boats? When the boat heals over and makes you uncomfortable, you can scream or you can loosen the main sheet. Screaming is acting scared, loosening the main sheet is being scared and taking appropriate action. In 6 years you're friends will all remark about how well you get along with your son. In my daughters high years we were returning from whale watching 20+ miles and put up the . I gave her the and a heading and she piloted the boat home 20 miles and never collapsed the spinnaker, not even once.

11-09-2020, 15:42
	and bonding environment! I am sure you will involve him in all the shared planning and responsibilities. Lucky little sod. I would suggest that he will mature faster with the shared responsibilities than any other kid standing on the shore looking wistfully at him and his mum achieving fun things together.

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	if it was the 665) but i was out with him a few times and it was a nice boat to sail. And reasonably forgiving to beginners. So yeah - a good first boat.

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16-11-2020, 19:29
Boat: Edel 665 - 22'	26D but for various reasons we and went to the Edel. It is a very solid and forgiving boat - we are relative neophytes as well. Reefing is easy and we installed a this spring. We are slowly working towards more extreme weather and have gone out in some howling weather! This is something we never would have done with the D. I guess what I am trying to say is (if you have not already discovered this summer) that you made a very good decision with the Edel. Would love to see some shots! Have you chosen a name? Ours is "Irish Wake" Stay safe, Buzz

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Edel 6 (665/660) is a 21 ′ 9 ″ / 6.7 m monohull sailboat designed by Maurice Edel and built by Edel between 1975 and 1984.

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