| boats seem to last forever whereas production boats seem to have a limited lifespan? I had the option of a mint B37 but I decided to go ahead and get a CL41. Thanks for reading. | 09-08-2008, 09:38 | | Boat: Taswell 49 | has a half life of 5000 yrs....Also, grouping Beneteau into "production boats" and thus labelling them as inferior just because one has an afinity to "classic" boats is, once again, a very subjective statement...please back up your statements with proof...give me evidence of this limited lifespan. Soft air, a CL41 vs. a B37 are not comparable, they are two very different boats. I personally like the more modern flat bottomed style due to my liking a boat that has some speed to it. My preference does not make me be subjective towards classic type boats and believe me I could be very critical of certain classic boats. Regardless, I must say that this production boat biasness, I think, was developed in the eighties due to poor production methods and poor quality control of certain boat builders...however I have yet to come across an eighties built Beneteau that was of anything but excellent build quality. As a matter of fact, some classic 80s boats seem to have some serious issues.... | | | 09-08-2008, 09:46 | | Boat: Simpson, Catamaran, 46ft. IMAGINE | | | | 09-08-2008, 10:07 | | Boat: Pearson Countess 44 wannabe | . When I started to plan all the necessary to sail her thru the down to , everything needed to be done again from anchors to and capacity so I realized I was not going to be able to all of this. I think Beneteaus are excellent boats and the factory keeps in mind the comfort for coastal cruisers. Since I want to go to far places I changed my mind and got myself an also nicely maintained CL41 in Tortola. I am not saying one boat is better than the other all I am trying to express is if someone wants to go bluewater on a Beneteau those things that happened to me could be considered. Thanks again | | | 09-08-2008, 10:52 | | Boat: Beneteau First 42 | , Choy Lee et al the production boats of the mid-60’s to 70’s era. Take a walk through any southern marina today—and particularly Long Beach or Newport—and you will find a vast majority of old production boats—Cal’s, Columbia’s, Coronado’s, Newport’s, Pearson’s, Santana’s and, of course, not a few boats built by Choy Lee which, at the time, was the “higher end” of the Chinese production boats built with labor and cheaper , which, richly carved into door and wall , imparts an aura of quality not always deserved by the underlying structural workmanship. (In fact, the Choy Lee yard was the forerunner of a number of and Taiwanese yards that specialized in “cheap” knock-off’s of boats designed by Alden, Phil Rhodes and their contemporaries—e.g. the Rhodes Reliant’s and Bounty’s that miraculously reappeared as Choy Lee 40’s and 41’s—and, later, even Bob Perry’s designs.) Likewise, the Beneteau 49—tho’ not my “cuppa” tea—will surely be around in 20 years, and likely 50 years, and with reasonable and up-keep, will likely be going strong. For the , we happen to own a 23 year old Beneteau First 42 and we are frequently complimented for her beauty by passers by; and, on how plush and beautiful her woodwork and finishes are by visitors. She is as fast as a witch in any at all and rock steady in a seaway in lousy conditions which lets us arrive rested and in good spirits while our competitors in lesser—newer—yachts look like they’ve taken a beating. Cthelen’s question was to upgrade equipment is not as much a worry as the structural integrity of the hull and .” The structural integrity of the hull and rig are certainly more than sufficient. The boats are off-shore rated—many are delivered across oceans on their own bottoms—and the materials, workmanship and quality controls employed by Beneteau at its plants in the US and are first rate. More salient, in my view, is the suitability of the yacht for the proposed use—although one’s propositions and one’s actualizations are frequently at odds. While the yacht is certainly “lovely” to behold, that does not bespeak its sea keeping. The polar’s are impressive but with the hull shape and little of the yacht below the waterline for damping, I suspect she may roll her guts out off the in a seaway unless one is able to carry a press of sail for stability, which a crew may not. Moreover, the and water capacity—63 and 150 gallons respectively—are not impressive, nor is there much evidence of capacity unless one elects to use one of the aft cabins in the 3-cabin version for stores. Further negatives in my view are the width of the cabin/salon with nary a hand-hold in sight; minimal fiddles on counters; and, a lack of sea berths tho’ the settee berth in the and the twin aft berths could be made suitable. Of course, for the California—Hawaii run around the Pacific High, these might not be such important factors as one will only be at sea for two weeks or so in—normally—reasonably benign conditions. N’any case, FWIW— s/v HyLyte | | | 09-08-2008, 18:37 | | Boat: CyberYacht 43 | as "safe". After making sure that the boat is as good as good can be comes from experience, and caution. | | | 09-08-2008, 22:50 | | | capacity unless one elects to use one of the aft cabins in the 3-cabin version for stores. Further negatives in my view are the width of the cabin/salon with nary a hand-hold in sight; minimal fiddles on counters; and, a lack of sea berths tho’ the settee berth in the and the twin aft berths could be made suitable. Of course, for the California—Hawaii run around the Pacific High, these might not be such important factors as one will only be at sea for two weeks or so in—normally—reasonably benign conditions. N’any case, FWIW— s/v HyLyte | 10-08-2008, 00:40 | | Boat: Hughes 38 Wild Card | 38 which I have 50,000+ ocean miles on. Fatty, in Phuket, Thailand | | | 10-08-2008, 08:18 | | Boat: Beneteau First 42 | in any seaway, although you can easily carry your trysail and weather in an aft locker so that's not such an issue. As to diagonal berths--some friends of ours own a with a similar arrangement that they've taken to a few times and they report the berth is worthless in a seaway but okay in settled weather, which, fortunately, predominates. That would leave only one--or two if one crew is height challanged--sea berths in the salon apart from sleeping on the sole, (which does have something to recommend it tho' not if the yacht has only one , forward, or shallow bilges with a belly full of water). After re-reading your post earlier this morning, my (far) better half and I pulled up the Beneteau web-site and looked at the boat again and her first comment was "...the cabin's beautiful but there's nothing to hold on to". (At only 4'-11", tho' she claims 5', hand holds are a big issue for her.) She also read my earlier post and commented that the fuel and water capacity of the yacht is better, and the same, respectively, as ours and they've not been a problem for us and a water-maker can remedy the water supply situation anyway--so I stand corrected. As for strength and endurance, your primary issues--the yacht is more than adaquate in my view--eh Fatty?--and, shaped much like a classic "sled", she'll have a good turn of speed off the wind which is what you require. Cheers, s/v HyLyte | | | Thread Tools | | Rate This Thread | : | Posting Rules | post new threads post replies post attachments edit your posts is are code is are are are | Similar Threads | Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post | | cmadden | Multihull Sailboats | 46 | 05-07-2019 03:06 | | TOM | Monohull Sailboats | 14 | 21-12-2013 17:28 | | John-in-Hamilton | General Sailing Forum | 13 | 26-08-2009 01:11 | | 1800bahamas | Construction, Maintenance & Refit | 3 | 17-05-2008 08:46 | | GordMay | Cooking and Provisioning: Food & Drink | 2 | 01-02-2005 12:25 | Privacy Guaranteed - your email is never shared with anyone, opt out any time. - Forums New posts Unanswered threads Register Top Posts Email
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Hello Beneteauians! As a potential Beneteau owner I would like to ask what model Beneteau is the most Deep or Blue Water Sailboat capable. I know that length has a say, but what model to start with? Please include any models that have been discontinued in the last 20 years. Thanks in advance. Popcorn.......... Hard to go wrong with a First 39. Many have done a lap. Kings GambitWill GilmoreHello NEBrian, I live at the other end of rt 2 in NH. Pick the boat in your price range with the accomodations you need. Be sure price range includes costs for repairs and upgrade additions for bluewater, long range cruising; such as new safety equipment, updated standing rigging, spare parts, storm jib, extra reef points, if needed, in main. There's a long list of common sense equipment and mods that any boat owner intent on bluewater sailing should have. Beneteaus, as a brand, are up to the task, when properly outfitted with a captain who knows his boat and is well prepared. I am not a Beneteau owner, but I have lived aboard, sailed long range and across an ocean. I do know Beneteaus are designed solidly and to sail bluewater, survive knockdowns and be self-righting. That's a good start for any bluewater venture. If buying used, be sure the PO hasn't changed or adversely modified the vessel to not meet the above standards, which are not comprehensive by any means. I also recommend that when sailing outside immediate availability for help, keep the main hatch closed. There is the unpredictable rogue wave or blast of wind. I was sitting below, aboard a 56' three-masted schooner, reading a book at the dock, on a nice Florida Winter day when the boat took a very sudden 20 degree heel and popped back upright. Talking to people at the marina afterward, they described the row of sailboats as looking like a line of dominos, they just suddenly fell over in turn down the row. Nobody else felt any wind or saw the Kraken brushing the keels. You never know. -Will (Dragonfly) As an experienced sailor friend of mine once said, it's not the boat, it's the sailor David in SanduskySome Beneteaus are clearly coastal cruisers. Their large cockpits and beamy designs make them questionable for a long voyage where they need to survive major storms with no safe harbor near. I recommend “Choosing a Cruising Sailboat” by Roger Marshall, available from the SBO store, to help you make an informed choice. Roger talks about seakeeping and comfort from the hull, safety systems, bunks near the centerline, a large, rechargeable battery bank, a watermaker, a complete galley, substantial ground tackle, and an inflatable dinghy for his voyager/long distance cruiser design. Educating yourself will help you to select and prepare a boat for your purpose. BrianRobin said: ...it's not the boat, it's the sailor Click to expand David in Sandusky said: Some Beneteaus are clearly coastal cruisers. Their large cockpits and beamy designs make them questionable for a long voyage where they need to survive major storms with no safe harbor near. Click to expand Don S/V ILLusionExaggeration for effect - Can someone please explain how a 30 ft wave which will break windows and remove a mast can read a certification label? Thank you all for the great information. Thanks Caboteur for giving me the model Beneteau Oceanis. There seems to be a lot of Beneteau sailboats for sale. I just wanted a place to start. Thanks again. Davidasailor26Don S/V ILLusion said: Exaggeration for effect - Can someone please explain how a 30 ft wave which will break windows and remove a mast can read a certification label? Click to expand Davidasailor26 said: Well obviously the wave can't read the certification any more than another car can read how many stars are in your car's crash test rating when it hits you. But it's still a valuable measure of overall safety and readiness. I wouldn't want to be in a bad storm with an A certified boat any more than in an accident with a 5 star car, but I'd have a better chance there than in a D certified boat or 1 star car. Click to expand JohnShannonThe "First" series are built a little better and designed for racing, the Oceanis series is optimized for cruising and comfort. Firsts have done and won Sydney Hobart Oceanis mmm maybe not. You could also get a Figaro 2 set up for easy single handing! I think the CE A rating looks at the same design details that a 30ft wave looks at, it does mean something but like all rules is imperfect. CaptainSV-SecondStarWhile no ocean crossing yet with us aboard, our 2007 B49 has circumnavigated the Caribbean and done numerous offshore miles. Worth a look. It was not a boat that was on our original short list at all, but we could not be happier with the results. 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2006 Beneteau 50 | Attitude Adjustment Pompano Beach, Florida, United States2007 Beneteau 43.14 | Kasoumai Rodney Bay, Saint Lucia, Caribbean2021 Beneteau 24 | Lucky Boy Moscow, Idaho, United States1986 Beneteau 51 | Shameles Charlotte Amalie, United States Virgin Islands, Caribbean1989 Beneteau 30 | Lollygag Junction City, Kansas, United States2003 Beneteau 33 | OASIS Miami, Florida, United States2017 Beneteau 41 St Maarten, Sint Maarten, Caribbean2008 Beneteau 43 | SUNQUEST Miami, Florida, United StatesLooking to sell your sailboat?Post your sailboat for free and find a buyer. 1994 Beneteau 44 | Rout'Deau Melbourne, Florida, United States1986 Beneteau 40.5 | LOIS Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Spain2007 Beneteau 43 | Ocean Echo 1 Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada2007 Beneteau 43.14 | Ocean Echo 1 Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada2005 Beneteau 47 | Picaro Bocas del Toro, Bocas del Toro, Panama2002 Beneteau 42 | Fredom Cacique , Colón, Panama2005 Beneteau 34 Ventura, California, United States1987 Beneteau 51 | Radio Flyer St. Augustine, Florida, United States2000 Beneteau 32 El Dorado, Kansas, United States2006 Beneteau 35 Glades, Florida, United States1999 Beneteau 35 | Terre a Terre Lake Champlain, New York, United States | | |
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Find Beneteau 49 boats for sale in your area & across the world on YachtWorld. Offering the best selection of Beneteau boats to choose from. ... Sail-all-sail. All sail. Sail-cruiser. Cruiser. Sail-sloop. Sloop. Make. Make-sea-ray-desktop. Sea Ray. ... Bluewater Yacht Sales | Martinsville, Virginia. 2024 Sea-Doo Switch Cruise 18. US$35,199.
30 to 40 indicates a moderate bluewater cruising boat; 40 to 50 indicates a heavy bluewater boat; over 50 indicates an extremely heavy bluewater boat. Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam^1.33), where displacement is expressed in pounds, and length is expressed in feet. Capsize Screening Formula (CSF): Designed to determine if a ...
Beneteau 49 is a 49′ 6″ / 15.1 m monohull sailboat designed by Berret-Racoupeau and built by Beneteau starting in 2005. Great choice! Your favorites are temporarily saved for this session. ... 40-50: heavy bluewater boat >50: extremely heavy bluewater boat. Capsize Screening 1.9 <2.0: better suited for ocean passages.
The Beneteau 49 is a recreational keelboat, built predominantly of glassfibre, with wood trim.It has a 9/10 fractional sloop masthead sloop rig, with two sets of swept spreaders and aluminium spars with stainless steel wire standing rigging.The hull has a slightly raked stem, a walk-through reverse transom with a swimming platform, an internally mounted spade-type rudder controlled by dual ...
Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 49. For a boat focused on the needs of the lucrative charter market, the Sun Odyssey 49 has proved a remarkably adept bluewater cruiser. A large cockpit, easily managed sailplan and fine all-round performance obviously have something to do with this; cool features like a dedicated sail locker in the bow and a large nav station belowdecks don't hurt either.
The Beneteau 49 is a sprightly performer thanks to its modern underbody and powerful sail plan. It comes with all the creature comforts for which cruisers could ask, attractive avant-garde styling, and a price that offers an excellent value. Beneteau 49. LOA: 49′ 6″ (15.09 m.) LWL: 43′ 8″ (13.31 m.) Beam: 14′ 9″ (4.50 m.)
Beneteau 49 by George Day Blue Water Sailing October 2006 The Beneteau 49 Stirs an Instant "WOW!" New styling and enhanced systems make this new 49-footer a production trendsetter In July we flew to Toronto, Canada, to join Beneteau USA's president Wayne Burdick on the maiden voyage (in North America) of the new Beneteau 49. In all of the years we have been sailing boats for in-depth ...
49'. 14.7'. 5.9'. Florida. $265,000. Description: Meet Athena, She is a cruise ready boat that has been as far as Tortola and is currently docked in the Tampa Bay. She has all new B&G electronics to include radar and a fwd looking sonar. She is energy independent with set 930 watts of solar and 825 Amp/hrs of house bank LiFePo batteries.
The Beneteau 49 is a 49.5ft fractional sloop designed by Berret Racoupeau Yacht Design and built in fiberglass by Beneteau since 2005. The Beneteau 49 is a light sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is reasonably stable / stiff and has a good righting capability if capsized. ... Monohull fin keel with bulb and spade rudder
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Find Sail Beneteau 49 boats for sale in your area & across the world on YachtWorld. Offering the best selection of Beneteau boats to choose from. ... Bluewater Yacht Sales, LLC- Wrightsville Beach | Greenville, North Carolina. 2024 Thor Lake Hammer 1754. US$35,999. Performance East Inc | Goldsboro, North Carolina. 2024 Yamaha Boats 255 FSH Sport E.
Beneteau preowned sailboats for sale by owner. Beneteau used sailboats for sale by owner. ... Your search returned 8 matches of 102118 sailboats posted to date. Sort by: Length Year Price Added. Beneteau 49: Length: 49' Beam: 14' Draft: 5' Year: 2007: Type: cruiser: Hull: fiberglass monohull: Engine: 1 inboard; Location: Gore Bay Ontario Canada ...
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Allures 51.9 price: €766,000. The Ovni 370 is another cunning new aluminum centreboard offering, a true deck saloon cruiser for two. The designers say the biggest challenge was to create a ...
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It's all hearsay. The 49 is great bluewater boat. Never heard of bulkheads separating or hull integrity being an issue. Research any you will find there isn't a finer/stronger production boat on the market. The materials and methods used today are better than ever and the liner/grid system (overkill design) beneteau uses makes for a stiff/strong hull that can take a lot!
The starting price is $220,000, the most expensive is $625,000, and the average price of $510,000. Related boats include the following models: Antares 9, Gran Turismo 41 and Swift Trawler 35. Boat Trader works with thousands of boat dealers and brokers to bring you one of the largest collections of Beneteau 49 boats on the market.
It also helps to know the effective (working) definition of "blue-water" cruising. Being more than a day's run (24 hr) to safe harbor. That may or may not equate directly with distance offshore. For most sailboats (monohull), a day's run falls between about 130 and 180 n.mi.
Gran Turismo 49 Boatmarket - sale of Beneteau yachts in Moscowhttp://www.boatmarket.ru/beneteau/19/1223/
1999 Beneteau 35 | Terre a Terre Lake Champlain, New York, United States. $79,000. Listed on July 25, 2021. Beneteau sailboats for sale.
Beneteau First 24 SE (2021) - Excellent and immaculate condition. Lightly used about 50 times - only in freshwater lakes. The sailboat, located in northern Idaho, USA, was custom ordered by me as the original owner, and has a custom-built trailer. This First 24 SE fully loaded with options and is ready to sail.
Beneteau First 24 SE (2021) - Excellent and immaculate condition. Lightly used about 50 times - only in freshwater lakes. The sailboat, located in northern Idaho, USA, was custom ordered by me as the original owner, and has a custom-built trailer. This First 24 SE fully loaded with options and is ready to sail.